Thread: Provenance's Beginner's Unit Tier List

Conrad in D tier, Eunice in B tier, Kerry in B tier, Elaine of all units in A tier. I'll accept Eunice being there but what are the other duelists doing?

Fedora in B tier below all worse healers (excluding Chydis)

Originally Posted by Sasha

Conrad in D tier, Eunice in B tier, Kerry in B tier, Elaine of all units in A tier. I'll accept Eunice being there but what are the other duelists doing?

Fedora in B tier below all worse healers (excluding Chydis)

probably supposed to be misha in A-tier, but we dont get misha. elaine's probably supposed to be B-tier, but since we don't get Kerry anymore, she got pushed to A-tier due to a lack of choice. A-tier being necessity to level and use said unit. which was why I said:

Elaine and Calliope are seriously lucky to even be placed in A-tier here. by DMM standards both would be nothing more than B-tier.

First things first, thank you for your work provenance

Right, i'm quite confused as to why people are arguing in this thread, i did not read anything in Provenance topic where he said "WEAKLINGS DO AS I SAY OR ROT IN HELL". So it's most likely an opinion which he shares with us, right?

From my point of view the topic tries to explain how "worth" are units and how useful can be units to succeed in aigis. Since it worked for him many times, why argue about it?

I started this game two months ago by now, when i started i read as much things as i could to get as much informations as i could, and i wouldn't give a damn about the "BEST WAY".
Takin informations and doing things your own way, whether you succeed or fail is up to you.

It is an opinion, and thus we discuss it, is that a bad thing? It is a good thing to discuss things like when someone makes a tier list of what he finds best to start with because we throw in our experiences to create something meaningful. To not discuss and just let it stand there is to silently agree and say "yes everyone should do like this" while discussing means we disagree and want to argue for why some units are better as well as hear more from him why he feels some units are placed where they are.

That said, i guess he made the tier list from how he sees units in accordance to how easy they are to get. So Bernice as an example got into a lower tier because you might not even get her.

Anyhow, promoting discussions is what a forum exists for. It would actually be weird if he did not get different opinions about his choices.

Spica on B?
Conrad on D?
Bernice on B?
Jerome not in S?
Soma below Daniela?

well... while i agree that daniela takes a little bit of priority over soma because she has more attack, i go with a spica + soma in regards of archers and i never feel the need for a daniela, if i lack rush fire power i use bashira and it's done, i would rather put spica on S

Conrad on D is... what is/are the units that is/are better than him in his job as a duelist against magick attackers?

Just wondering why Soma wouldn't be rated higher when she starts with a big affection boost like Alyssa? If you are looking at a sliver archer to have up and firing as soon as possible, wouldn't she be a more logical choice with a better head start? Is the difference between Daniella and Soma that great?

Originally Posted by slyyr

Just wondering why Soma wouldn't be rated higher when she starts with a big affection boost like Alyssa? If you are looking at a sliver archer to have up and firing as soon as possible, wouldn't she be a more logical choice with a better head start? Is the difference between Daniella and Soma that great?

Daniela deals a fair bit more damage when you level her skill, but considering that your silver archer is just an interim solution until you get Spica, I'd say it's not a big deal. Early on you will lack the fodder to upgrade her skill and affection items don't grow on trees (I guess it's easier on Nutaku with all the breaks), so yeah, I prefer Soma as well.

I think it's fair to put her a tier ahead. Soma's affection based attack power lead basically evaporates the moment you hit Daniela's skill whereas Increase Range is very niche. The gap between the two is actually pretty intense if you routinely use 3 archers in your team, something which isn't actually a terrible choice given how easy it is to skill up Daniela once or twice. Increase Attack 1 is pretty common and many of the other units who have it aren't terribly valuable anyway.

Originally Posted by kayfabe

I think it's fair to put her a tier ahead. Soma's affection based attack power lead basically evaporates the moment you hit Daniela's skill whereas Increase Range is very niche. The gap between the two is actually pretty intense if you routinely use 3 archers in your team, something which isn't actually a terrible choice given how easy it is to skill up Daniela once or twice. Increase Attack 1 is pretty common and many of the other units who have it aren't terribly valuable anyway.

I started a new account at DMM, I've never actually leveled daniela to use her.
on nutaku aigis, I level'd daniela, almost never had to use her either.