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  1. #421
    Not sure it's pretty tricky, needs to figure first the ratio of att/def gain by HP (troop). I'd say Book of Han as easier right now to get. And maybe you have better accessory after too. But I wouldn't be surprised if actually Hanaire Vase gives more defense at level 20 when I see the gap btw both. And so it's a free skill compared to legendary Book of Han.

    Now I also wanna see legendary Gikeiki for attackers. But for tank the best to me seems Original Hanaire right now if you can have a legendary upgrade. The stats are close but the regen could be really good (6-10% maybe?).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamakiri View Post
    Not sure it's pretty tricky, needs to figure first the ratio of att/def gain by HP (troop). I'd say Book of Han as easier right now to get. And maybe you have better accessory after too. But I wouldn't be surprised if actually Hanaire Vase gives more defense at level 20 when I see the gap btw both. And so it's a free skill compared to legendary Book of Han.

    Now I also wanna see legendary Gikeiki for attackers. But for tank the best to me seems Original Hanaire right now if you can have a legendary upgrade. The stats are close but the regen could be really good (6-10% maybe?).
    Unless you're using a entire party of zero evolved units, I'd suggest you hold off on the Hanaire Vase and get the Shoka Vase which is from the stage, unlocked after the stage 3-4, where you get Hanaire Vase. That is if you can handle the enemies there. There is a Original Hanaire Vase but unless you can always get on when the daimyo initiates the raids, you won't ever have a chance at getting it.

    Anyways, Shoka Vase also has 4% troop regen with higher base HP and growth than Hanaire Vase. Though it requires Lv40 general, which means at least evolved once.

    It's rather easy to calculate their base values as their growth is static.
    At Lv20, Hanaire Vase is 795 HP, a Shoka Vase is 880 HP and a Legendary Book of Han is 695 HP. With the 15% defense increase, I'm sure the book is still better than the Hanaire. Though unless I know the value of ATK/DEF increase to HP, I can't say about Shoka.

    Both vases have more HP than a Legendary Book of Han and higher HP growth per upgrade. Early levels of the equips, the book will most likely provide better use with the 15% defensive boost but the higher level you increase the level of the equips, the vases will become better if you factor in total benefits such as attack and hp increase.
    Last edited by Aidoru; 04-24-2017 at 07:45 PM.

  3. #423
    I've been sitting on two SSR evo cards for a while and I'm wondering who I should use them on. Right now I have Tokugawa Ieyasu, Mori Motonari, and Hohjo Ujiyasu. Sould I use my evo cards on any of those, or is there a better SSR girl I should get before using my evo cards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zerana View Post
    I've been sitting on two SSR evo cards for a while and I'm wondering who I should use them on. Right now I have Tokugawa Ieyasu, Mori Motonari, and Hohjo Ujiyasu. Sould I use my evo cards on any of those, or is there a better SSR girl I should get before using my evo cards?
    I would recommend saving them til you have a proper party formed you plan to use for a while.

    edit: My bad, wrong character but several SSR units can be farmed in hidden dungeon.
    Last edited by Aidoru; 04-25-2017 at 07:56 AM.

  5. #425
    Quote Originally Posted by Aidoru View Post
    Oh god, I can't believe how dumb I've been. For the world boss, I had assumed I only had a few attempts total at the entirety of it but you can run every stage in each of them multiple times. Really didn't help it doesn't have a number counter like regular missions. Jeez.
    The whole thing still confuses me. I get in the second it starts and every character you click on is dead before I get to even attack them until eventually you get to the ones I can't beat anyway. I just do the convoys that pop up 3 times each and that's it, am I missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trickster13 View Post
    The whole thing still confuses me. I get in the second it starts and every character you click on is dead before I get to even attack them until eventually you get to the ones I can't beat anyway. I just do the convoys that pop up 3 times each and that's it, am I missing something?
    Basically gotta beat all the main targets to unlock the next zone. Think there's only 3 zones. Each area seems to have 3 extra enemies, those convoys, they drop nice stuff but can only be battled 3 times each. You can keep attacking the main enemies endlessly it seems but still uses rations.

    I didn't know that since there was no counter so after clearing a convoy 3 times til the koban pop up shows up, I figured I was done so I left to do other stuff. I was wondering how people were in the hundred+ thousand damage range without spending a bunch of koban to try again, now I know.

    The reward for the amount of effort it takes doesn't seem like it's worth it though.

  7. #427
    Quote Originally Posted by Aidoru View Post
    Basically gotta beat all the main targets to unlock the next zone. Think there's only 3 zones. Each area seems to have 3 extra enemies, those convoys, they drop nice stuff but can only be battled 3 times each. You can keep attacking the main enemies endlessly it seems but still uses rations.

    I didn't know that since there was no counter so after clearing a convoy 3 times til the koban pop up shows up, I figured I was done so I left to do other stuff. I was wondering how people were in the hundred+ thousand damage range without spending a bunch of koban to try again, now I know.

    The reward for the amount of effort it takes doesn't seem like it's worth it though.

    btw...important to mention is when u attack these strong units u cant kill alone u get gold as a reward even when losing i just noticed it when i refreshed ( for being able to attack again faster) that my gold also rises..

    what makes me wonder is, after u lose it doesnt say anything about loot but still u get gold...what im trying to figure out right now is, if u get gold depending on ur dmg output or if its unrelated...also if its related to ur damage output how much dmg do u need to do to get more or is it like 10000dmg=10000gold or so...well i will find out at the next event...

    anyway im kinda relieved ur actually getting something since its pretty much impossible to get a kill on these enemys.


    oh and currently im fighting more and more players which are really strong with stats like 7k atk and 6k def on each character..was there an event that i missed or what is going on?
    most of em doesnt even care about temple/church it seems since they´r using troops from both
    Last edited by Sivertop; 04-24-2017 at 10:56 PM.

  8. #428
    Where can you get 3rd-tier upgrades for the Church's side? I'm already on Chapter 2 4th map and all I can see are upgrades on the "Left" side. I decided on using Church units because I got Lus Fris (UR*) and her skillset needs her to become a Nun. I badly need upgrades for Miko and Raider (Rogue Warrior tree) and Lancer and Knight (Heavy Cavalry).

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    Quote Originally Posted by LastSensei View Post
    Where can you get 3rd-tier upgrades for the Church's side? I'm already on Chapter 2 4th map and all I can see are upgrades on the "Left" side. I decided on using Church units because I got Lus Fris (UR*) and her skillset needs her to become a Nun. I badly need upgrades for Miko and Raider (Rogue Warrior tree) and Lancer and Knight (Heavy Cavalry).
    Miko is Chapter 2 the last i think it was 2-5

    last troop upgrade should be with chapter 3 (didnt run through it yet since im stalling and farming gold+upgrades

    edit: raider/knight/lancer also chapter 2-5
    Last edited by Sivertop; 04-24-2017 at 11:01 PM.

  10. #430
    LOL ranked match has literally become who can click on the noob first xD

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