Thread: Sengoku Providence announced!

Well 300 stamina and not a single drop, that certainly makes this feel very unrewarding. I don't feel like 1 drop per 100 stamina is enough to do this unless you farm your life away let alone having RNG go against you to give you one hell of a dry spell.

Originally Posted by Eversor86

Welp. Decided to test for lols how restarting the game to force interruption works.

Did close to 100 clears which I reset the moment the event girl dies not dropping a sphere/drop. Not a single drop. Two possibilities - my luck just sucks so much that in 100 runs I got zero drops at level 74 of dojo. Or game is "inteligent" in a manner that it actually determines drops before you even kill stuff and remembers that for sake of restarting after interrupt. This could explain why if I restart after girl dies without drop, I don't see any drops for 100 retries.

So just stamina runs for me. Hope I get few drops I need to get 5* variant so I can get back to my previous faster 35 stamina/25 stamina map running vs spamming this 12 stamina one.

It could be possible that they fixed it for the Dojo.
But one thing's for sure, the force interruption does change the drops and I've personally tried it for event bosses when the main boss themselves are dropping their senki.

The other possibility that I can imagine is that the Yazuo only drops after "X amount" of dojo runs and if you failed to beat it, it resets.

Originally Posted by Inb4whales

The other possibility that I can imagine is that the Yazuo only drops after "X amount" of dojo runs and if you failed to beat it, it resets.

I don't know if that would be the case, with the drop rate I am seeing I am getting her drops all over the place. Rarely I will get her dropping right after I got her and other times there will be a massive gap in between drops. There is just a possibility like Eversor said the RNG could have just been that bad she may not have dropped because of it. The worst I have had was using 300 stamina and didn't get her once.

But who knows, I wouldn't be surprised if a tactic would work like that on an already hard and time consuming event.

Originally Posted by vysethevaliant

Are there any events in this game that aren't a month-long grind? If so, I might drop it just because of that. I don't mind grinding events, but this one goes on for so long with you receiving so little points per session out of it all. I'd rather a shorter/faster-paced event with higher points gained per run.

Basically what you are saying is that you want to do nothing to just a few click and get better to all rewards as fast as possible.

On the discord channel the admin mentioned that the rebellion event was different than the original game, and the rewards past 100k were added as a thing to do for hard core players. He also started an argument yesterday: should there be easy events for every one to complete which will frustrate "old" players, or hard events to give something to do "old" players that will frustrate new players.

We are sorry for not responding sooner been busy conjuring the new advanced dojo event.

To a previous user that requested the new Senki to be added to the normal gachas, they will be added really soon.

The rebellion event is a new one not available on DMM, and the 100k reward was the main reward, the other rewards were added so users can have something to do after that point if they want to. As you get poits by doing almost everything in the game you might aim for an additional reward.

The Advanced Dojo is a copy of the DMM one, and our records and facebook page shows that users already have the 6* Senki with 10 more days out of the event. Our records also show that f2p users managed to combine the Senki using farmable inhumas. We do not have data about how much time was spent or free magatama, but with more than half of the event remaining we can assume that you can divide it evenly between these days.

We do our best to balance the events for both new and old players and f2p/paying users. Any suggestions that will also cover the other part of the equation are welcomed.

Originally Posted by Nutaku Staff

We are sorry for not responding sooner been busy conjuring the new advanced dojo event.

To a previous user that requested the new Senki to be added to the normal gachas, they will be added really soon.

The rebellion event is a new one not available on DMM, and the 100k reward was the main reward, the other rewards were added so users can have something to do after that point if they want to. As you get poits by doing almost everything in the game you might aim for an additional reward.

The Advanced Dojo is a copy of the DMM one, and our records and facebook page shows that users already have the 6* Senki with 10 more days out of the event. Our records also show that f2p users managed to combine the Senki using farmable inhumas. We do not have data about how much time was spent or free magatama, but with more than half of the event remaining we can assume that you can divide it evenly between these days.

We do our best to balance the events for both new and old players and f2p/paying users. Any suggestions that will also cover the other part of the equation are welcomed.

Honestly i got say that you guys did a terrible job on the balance of the rewards. 100K points to get a single 5 star is just ridiculous, you would have to grind this day and night to get it...people have jobs and a life you know. But by far the worst one is the dojo...like really, even with a full group of max lv 6 stars with all stats capped i cant find a way to win...hell, if I used affection to get 20% stat boost, that should be overkill and I should be able to stomp everything i my way, but thats not what happens...this event is de definition of unfair, the enemy is way stronger, faster and more resistent, there is no strategy involved, is all about luck. This is my experince at floor 89, only god knows what nonsense is waiting at the higher levels.
So in conclusion, i kind of like this game and all, but you guys are making what was supposed to be fun and relaxing into just pure frustration.

RNG at its finest. Total of close to 200 forced interruptions (aka right mouse button cursor up and down for gesture of a reload page ). Not a single drop. Then I gave up, did 8 normal stamina runs, 3 drops among that.

Enough to craft 5* when I will get blue leveling thingies to godify/whatever them up.

Not going to bother with this event anymore, cause I would need to farm out 48 or what ever I calculated some post ago more of them 1* bitches. Which with 9 days left means 5.(3) of them per day. With estimated by someone above 1 drop per around 100 stamina - that would mean 533 stamina a day, so at minimum 2 magas - don't know if that girls is worth over 20 magas.

EDIT: There was a reissue of this event on DMM so maybe we could hear from Nutaku if we too will get it in some time in future, could help some of us to decide if to skip farming and wait for it, or something /EDIT

I rater do 25/35 stamina maps to have mats to upgrade/evolve and girls to get a bit better luck on few selected ones. And also cause of no points from dojo apart from 600 from bonus map each 100 stamina, I kinda fallen behind and will need to burn probably few magas on stamina to regain what I lost.

Originally Posted by Nutaku Staff

The rebellion event is a new one not available on DMM, and the 100k reward was the main reward, the other rewards were added so users can have something to do after that point if they want to. As you get poits by doing almost everything in the game you might aim for an additional reward.

You don't get them in dojo. Part stamina spent still count for progress bar of special 0-stmiana map. Which is hard to finish without full team of 2k+ defense girls. Also getting to 100k requires basically 3.4k points a day with around 8 points per stamina that you can more or less manage (on event girls maps and evolution/upgrading mats maps, didn't test campaign maps) its over 420 stamina per day. Thats basically whole day worth of stamina used each damn day. You can't reach more than 100k without burning magas on stamina refills, its just impossible - so its basically a something for whales, or people who hoarded magas. But you need to be retardly high level and have huge stamina pulls to be even after burning magas with the rewards.

One more thing I don't like about this event is that rewards are actually worse than most you get from daily login bonuses, and all rewards till 5* girl you call a main rewards takes you 30 days without burning magas, so same to get to 5* girl in daily login rewards.

Originally Posted by Nutaku Staff

The Advanced Dojo is a copy of the DMM one, and our records and facebook page shows that users already have the 6* Senki with 10 more days out of the event. Our records also show that f2p users managed to combine the Senki using farmable inhumas. We do not have data about how much time was spent or free magatama, but with more than half of the event remaining we can assume that you can divide it evenly between these days.

In all honesty, you shouldn't assume, you should freaking know stuff. Just cause some free players hoarded who knows how much magas and burned probably tens or hundreds of them to get a 6 star before half the event passed, doesn't mean the event is balanced for free players. Heck, idea of spending magas and hours on running the same map over and over and over again, makes me want to quit game overall. Cause I seen 2 events, and both are bad - so not much hope for better ones in future.

**This isn't directed at anyone, this is just an overview and my thoughts**

Rebellion Event:
Where it does seem true that Sengoku Providence rewards seem a little hard to work for compared to some other Nutaku games you have to remember the only other way to get these 5* Senkai is by trying your luck with free magas or buying paid ones for a chance at your favourite 5*, or the odd facebook event.

I wouldn't say the 100k goal is very hard to reach goal (but you do need a bit of commitment), I must admit I feel like I am comfortably going for the goal and yes I do have a long day job I go to and work some weekends. Yes I am using free magas but not a huge amount maybe just one or two a day if any at all and you get one free per day if you do the dailies. The end goal being a 5* senkai that a) you would have to pay money for a chance to get or b) waste you free magas to get her by RNG chance or just end up getting a horde of 3* and 4* senkai.

If you feel the reward is to hard and not worth it then simply don't go for it, you do have other creature senkai you can try your luck with and are easier to get (Even though you can't use them everywhere).

Advanced Dojo:

Now this one I agree is really challenging and I am also somewhat surprised that some free players have completed it and would say it is harder for the free player base. I will not be finishing the maps pass floor 85 as I have deemed them too hard for my team which only leaves farming and using more magas to try and get this event girl. I would guess those who have completed this event had a lot of magas to blow or could get the 5* senkai end reward which would lower the farming amount you need by 36.

The farming does feel overwhelming but it comes down to do you want this event girl, is she worth it? And the biggest one do you feel like spending a small or large fortune of free magas (Depends on your RNG). I am running this event to see if it worth doing in the future for other girls, I wont be running them all as it seems they are time consuming and maga consuming.

Could this be run better?? Yes they can (But does DMM do the same thing?? If yes this is an issue more with the game than Nutaku) and I can understand how some of these events also have rewards for the more hardcore players, if you are happy with a 5* event unit this should be easily farmable maybe without magas (Just don't expect to spend your stamina on any other events for the dojo period though.) and the 6* senkai is for more hardcore committed players with free magas to spend.

I guess in the end you need to ask yourself is Sengoku Providence the game you want to play or would you want to use your time elsewhere?

I would add that Rebellion Event has at least that advantage - that you can basically do it while doing other things, farming mats for evolution/upgrading, farming event girls, or farming campaign. Heck to some extent you can do it while farming the Advanced Dojo event.

What I hate about Dojo one is total lack of out-front information about drop chances. It just says we can farm the girls and thats it. As long as in rebellion you can spent like day and get a hold of how much points you get per stamina etc. here its not so easy. And looking for info on Japanese wiki doesn't really help (I found no info about how often girls drop, just that possibly better than 1* drop above 85 or so floor in one comment, but that could been google translate error).

As long as Rebellion event has basically no restrictions - well part that you need a decent team to be able to complete the 600 points 0-stamina bonus fight. Apart from that you can be a new starting player and farm easiest maps, and you should get similar results. Dojo event on the other hand, is geared hard towards paying users or free users who played since day one basically farming all they could to get a set of max leveled, max upgraded with foxes and darumas girls of various colours, to be able to reach high enough levels.

I can't beat floor 81. I can more or less farm manually with reload page interruptions if I fail the 80 floor with water only enemies, or auto-battle floor 74 (also water only). But its blind farming cause I don't know whats best to do 80?, 74? or maybe 1 stamina floors? which will yield best drops per stamina. Thats actually one thing I don't get about those games. Is the reason that gachas actually have information about drop chances the fact that you can use real money bought currency there? Why cant we have drop chances stated for everything? Lack of information maybe works for big games with tones of people playing them. But when there is few active people trying to get "under the hood" its get hard.

The odds of getting stuff from the gacha is listed primarily because of a law in Japan mandating it, IIRC.