Thread: Fake Lay

Originally Posted by irrimn

Iirc the photo session was always 10 minutes. I'm pretty sure, since I'm one of the people that has been contributing to the wiki since it started. It may just be that you mis-remembered how long it took and thought they lowered it. In any case, looking at the page 'history of changes' on girls that have photo sessions I can see it has always been 10 minutes on the wiki since the pages were made, and has not deviated from that in-game.

You missed it. Check the very first page for Pantress on wiki.

This is an old revision of this page, as edited 11-07-2017, 04:05 PM by north:
Scene 8
Body Building: 27
Fake it: 877M 1:00:00
Gifts: 4.4B

So we are not mis-remembering this. It was only for Pantress and may have been a bug that was fixed later.

Tbh it seems kinda pointless to put the time it takes filming since it all depends on your multiplyers, like I had one scene from Frecly that took like 8 hours and after a reset now its only 2 hours.

Unless we write down the current multiplyer that we have its just misleading info.

Originally Posted by irrimn

In any case, looking at the page 'history of changes' on girls that have photo sessions I can see it has always been 10 minutes on the wiki since the pages were made, and has not deviated from that in-game.

The fake timers are changing. Possibly in some relation to the reset or time bonus or number of times you reached the tier. To post the times in the wiki that early from tier 2 girls, one would have to have an above average time bonus.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

So we are not mis-remembering this. It was only for Pantress and may have been a bug that was fixed later.

As far as I have seen, the fake times are constant for each tier, but prices go up inside the tier. And after a few resets and possibly due to time warps, the timers are reduced to the next lower tier. Possibly when the game thinks you are "ready" for the tier. If you have to wait days for filming a scene, you are probably not. Tier 3 fake 3 was 6 hours to me, when I first saw it. Not anymore (but still "years" away from unlocking twins )

Originally Posted by Shuls

Tbh it seems kinda pointless to put the time it takes filming since it all depends on your multiplyers, like I had one scene from Frecly that took like 8 hours and after a reset now its only 2 hours.

Unless we write down the current multiplyer that we have its just misleading info.

I tried to find a connection with hearts or at least some kind of formulaic growth. No direct connection to hearts. Hearts seem to follow some patterns, but there are irregularities.

And the filming times from the first 3 girls are doubling the time from the previous girl. Ice breaks the pattern and I assume they introduce a new base to multiply for a few girls. I do not know the next breaker girl, if there is one, but these would be the points where the game tries to get you to buy time warps or do many resets or both.

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So. New week, new (old) screwed ranking system/match making. I looked at the best girl of players in the leaderboard with 1000 fame. I could swipe the floor with a lot of them and could not get over 17.

The way I see it, the game matches you with players that are your rank. Ok. But this produces something like traffic jams. If you manage to swoopy away early, you stay ahead. But if you need to sleep or cant play enough early on you get to a bottle neck where all the players are trying to get over big players, that are sitting in the area below 20 but do not have the time to advance further. One step forward, one step back.

It would be better if you would get matched against all players above you too. A higher rank does not prove you have the bigger girl, it just shows, you managed to win against smaller girls more often.

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Does anyone know if the one shot items get depleted when you are attacked?

Okay. I stand corrected. The timers for the fake it actions decrease, but not with time bonus.

Just had a 20 second action on tier3 and a few scenes later for the same girl a 2 hour timer. So it seems the time decreases for the next visit of the scene after a reset. I excpet the next reset, this timer will be 1 hour, and after one more reset 10 minutes.

Originally Posted by Hornypony

Okay. I stand corrected. The timers for the fake it actions decrease, but not with time bonus.

Just had a 20 second action on tier3 and a few scenes later for the same girl a 2 hour timer. So it seems the time decreases for the next visit of the scene after a reset. I excpet the next reset, this timer will be 1 hour, and after one more reset 10 minutes.

Just fyi the price of the fake its also changes.

We could consider removing from the wiki both the time and price it takes to do fake its and also the time for filming the scenes since all of this is different for everyone.
I also think that the bonus you get for the buildings after each scene might change a bit since I've seen a couple different numbers.

Originally Posted by Shuls

Just fyi the price of the fake its also changes.

We could consider removing from the wiki both the time and price it takes to do fake its and also the time for filming the scenes since all of this is different for everyone.
I also think that the bonus you get for the buildings after each scene might change a bit since I've seen a couple different numbers.

I noticed . Higher girl will ask more money for same task.

Filming time is different because of total bonus. It can (should) be noted in normalized way. Like 20 000 000 hours / total bonus or something like that. That would be easyly compareable to your individual bonus. If it is higher you have less than an hour. If it is is smaller you have more than an hour. And if the number is longer or shorter, multiply by 10 for each digit. For example, filming time Indira8 is 158 years. That would be 1 383 675 hours / Total bonus and if you have a tb of 1m you can see quickly that it will take longer than an hour, but not by much. (Interesstingly, nowhere is it explained, why the tb reduces filming time. It explicitly states, money hearts and skills.

If the fake price is staying the same across resets for the same scene, I would leave the price. Mabye write a tier number instead of time. Boob Massage (T3), Shoulder Rub (T1) etc.

No clue about buildings. Maybe the bonus from a girl is different if the building was leveled by filming first. Or similar to fake timers, the first time you unlock a girls scene, the bonus is different.

Originally Posted by Hornypony

I noticed . Higher girl will ask more money for same task.

I meant that after you reset the game and the time for a fake it is reduced so is the moeny it costs, not that the higher girls cost more because thats kinda obvious.

Originally Posted by Hornypony

Filming time is different because of total bonus. It can (should) be noted in normalized way. Like 20 000 000 hours / total bonus or something like that. That would be easyly compareable to your individual bonus. If it is higher you have less than an hour. If it is is smaller you have more than an hour. And if the number is longer or shorter, multiply by 10 for each digit. For example, filming time Indira8 is 158 years. That would be 1 383 675 hours / Total bonus and if you have a tb of 1m you can see quickly that it will take longer than an hour, but not by much. (Interesstingly, nowhere is it explained, why the tb reduces filming time. It explicitly states, money hearts and skills.

We (as far as I know) don't have the formula by wich the time is decided for fake it or filming scenes but if you figured it out already be my guest and post it otherwise thats just conjecture.

As an example of how much of a difference is there between resets, things that took me hours with Frecly now are taking only minutes and my bonuses before and after were 434 and 525.

For all we know it might not even be directly related to the time bonus but instead to how many times you've done the same scene before.

Originally Posted by Hornypony

So. New week, new (old) screwed ranking system/match making. I looked at the best girl of players in the leaderboard with 1000 fame. I could swipe the floor with a lot of them and could not get over 17.

The way I see it, the game matches you with players that are your rank. Ok. But this produces something like traffic jams. If you manage to swoopy away early, you stay ahead. But if you need to sleep or cant play enough early on you get to a bottle neck where all the players are trying to get over big players, that are sitting in the area below 20 but do not have the time to advance further. One step forward, one step back.

It would be better if you would get matched against all players above you too. A higher rank does not prove you have the bigger girl, it just shows, you managed to win against smaller girls more often.

I think the last couple days was the worst thanks to the Black Friday and a lot of players spending money on their first day so they have no ranking points and just smash most players on their way up, hopefully it gets better in the next couple days.

I actually got to rank 25 before Black Friday and after Black Friday I went down to 24 and started doing casual because I was getting matched with much stronger players and there was no way for me to go back up so RIP 4 diamonds.

Only 88 made it to rank 25 both times according to the leaderboard, so you weren't alone. I went down a rank then back up to 25 before I went to bed, woke up and the week had finished. Still would have preferred the extra 30 diamonds I overspent before the sale hit, 3 extra weeks of grinding.

Originally Posted by Shuls

I think the last couple days was the worst thanks to the Black Friday and a lot of players spending money on their first day so they have no ranking points and just smash most players on their way up, hopefully it gets better in the next couple days.

Do not think so. It is like last week. To many players with big hit girls sitting below 20, traffic jam ensues. Would those players just go to 25 and sit there, I would not be matched against them (I still believe you are matched by rank, not fame. Fame would be better). And I estimate it would cost around 200 diamonds to level a girl that high in a day. Having 20k warp, time slots and studios means nothing if you do not level the stats of a girl.

Originally Posted by ThanatosX

Only 88 made it to rank 25 both times according to the leaderboard, so you weren't alone.

The problem is, a lot of those girls are way below my hit girl. How did they manage that? I believe the current system produces bottle necks. If you start a few hours late or have to pause, you will be stuck below the neck.