View Poll Results: Which Tier does Black Baccara belongs to?

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  • S-Tier

    0 0%
  • A-Tier

    1 8.33%
  • B-Tier

    5 41.67%
  • C-Tier

    5 41.67%
  • D-Tier

    1 8.33%
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    Don't mind me using it. I try to be as objective as possible by remove all kind of bias and tend to get fired up sometimes. I will round up and down as I see fit in final verdict.

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    No worries. I have no doubt that you are as objective as possible. I trust our little brotherhood here

    I just thought if you guys have these tendencies i can implement that in the rule set but since it's not needed i deleted it again.

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    Wutan> Oh I didn't use "+" or "-" actually. I said at the end she could be A- tier but when I wrote "A-tier" I just mean A tier. the "-" is not a minus. Just a "-" between the "A" and the "tier". Sorry for the confusion. I think tiers without "+" or "-" is enough. That's not like our tiering was a precise thing.

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    Hrmm, I've given this thread some thought and I come to realize I can't really be as objective as you guys as I'm not the type to get very deep into stats and abilities as you all do. Nor can I ignore the waifu status considering appeal and character design through evolutionary process and (if I've seen it) affection scene. So I don't know if I really have any right to pass judgements in these kinds of discussions. If you all want, you can choose to ignore my vote or maybe as an outlier for fun. If you would prefer I not post at all to keep 100% with the rules, I will abstain henceforth understandably.


    So based off my opinion, she is a very solid rainbow. Often times I have seen her in helper teams she often triggers her ability on 1st turn and again on her 2nd follow up attack during that round. She is devastating to the insects as a result and can easily make many battles a 1st round out. So I can see why she is very popular. However, aesthetically judging she does not stand out and is plain looking. Nothing makes her very memorable to me by character design like others do. And just the same with BB, her affection scene is a disappointing handjob. I think HJ scenes are fine with lower characters like bronze or silver. But when you finally land that rainbow in an exciting gacha roll or even went whale on the ticket, a simple HJ affection scene just doesn't cut it for that tier of rarity.


    So overall the grade I would give her: B+
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    As a re-post a verdict on Dendrobium is A.
    Reason still the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by twilightdream View Post
    Dendrobium
    **I have her on DMM, she's one of my very first rainbow**
    Denbrobium has very power 2 atk buff, make her very destructive up front.
    But what make her powerfull is other 2 passive she has.
    Other 2 passive make her use her active skill for 2 times in 1st turn, if you can boost her base activation rate high enough.
    And like I said only on 1st turn.

    She has AOE active skill, nuking enemy is no problem.

    Her speed is 530, a little bit slow for my taste.

    Verdict : Ummm... I want to put her in S but now there's some girls have same passive like her.
    Also her buff start to be on back foot compare girls that got their passive buff.
    I think A rank may fit her... for now.
    I little bit busy, so I don't read back post must.
    Really sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadwNinjaX View Post
    Hrmm, I've given this thread some thought and I come to realize I can't really be as objective as you guys as I'm not the type to get very deep into stats and abilities as you all do. Nor can I ignore the waifu status considering appeal and character design through evolutionary process and (if I've seen it) affection scene. So I don't know if I really have any right to pass judgements in these kinds of discussions. If you all want, you can choose to ignore my vote or maybe as an outlier for fun. If you would prefer I not post at all to keep 100% with the rules, I will abstain henceforth understandably.


    So based off my opinion, she is a very solid rainbow. Often times I have seen her in helper teams she often triggers her ability on 1st turn and again on her 2nd follow up attack during that round. She is devastating to the insects as a result and can easily make many battles a 1st round out. So I can see why she is very popular. However, aesthetically judging she does not stand out and is plain looking. Nothing makes her very memorable to me by character design like others do. And just the same with BB, her affection scene is a disappointing handjob. I think HJ scenes are fine with lower characters like bronze or silver. But when you finally land that rainbow in an exciting gacha roll or even went whale on the ticket, a simple HJ affection scene just doesn't cut it for that tier of rarity.


    So overall the grade I would give her: B+
    To be honest your vote is quite fair. Just try to eliminate bias. I know sometimes it's not easy and a little bit of bias is always there.

    As long as your votes are somewhat realistic (and this vote definetely is) you are more than welcome to post your opinions about a girl.

    You could also write two sections if you want:

    One Section is about the Girl as a Unit only (i will consider this one for the final vote) and the other one is just for fun and your opinion about potential waifuism.
    ..
    To be honest I like Dendrobium as a unit but not as a girl (Her Bloomed Form looks decent though, the other two forms look boring). I also don't like her H-Scene so i understand where you are coming from.

    Whenever i judge a girl based on her battle capabilities i just see her as pixels with coding. After i flip the switch i see her as a potential waifu or as a girl i am not interested in

    Best scenario: You like the Unit and the Girl...but that's not always the case of course.
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    Ok time to look at the voting results for Dendrobium:

    5 votes for A-Tier
    1 vote for B-Tier

    Dendrobium will be put in A-Tier. Congratulations.

    Next Girl:


    http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Cattleya

    Deadline: 05.06.2018

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    Cattleya, Cattleya... that's hard to speak about her. I don't have her and I don't see her often in ally teams compared to Nutaku.


    Stats:
    HP are a bit low but it's still decent since she don't have defensive purpose.
    DEF is good. But once again, she don't need a super high DEF stat since she is not a counter girl.
    ATK is really high and THAT'S important.
    So, her stats are well bamanced and fit exactly to her role. Nothing much to say.


    Skill
    2.4 FIRE damages to all. That's good, that's why we love her.
    34% skill activation on max level is normal and enough is she has some skill activation support.


    Abilities
    And... here we are. THE worst part. Sorry Cattleya.
    Starts with the Light Gauge 50% filled.
    Meh why not. It can be useful but she is not a Solar unit. It'sjust gimmick for her. The kind of ability and girl you will take when you need some extra damages. But that's NOT something a good 6* should have (unless she is a solar unit obviously).

    Increases Attack for 3 party members, oneself included, by 40%.
    Ok but... no for me. It's good but she is not strong enough to carry all the battle on her shoulders. With her skill and ability set she is supposed to be more a support than the heroine. This kind of skill is... meh on her. Not enough selfish to be broken, and too random to let you rely on this to boost another girl. It's the kind of extra skill you want with other good skill aside. But she don't have enough good skills aside!

    Increases Damage of Skills for party members by 18% + Increases Skill Activation Rate for party members up to 1.2x
    Ok that's a good ability combo. With her skill, it make it even better. So, she can do good damage and have a good place in a skill activation team or as support of any kind of offensive team as a srong placeholder.

    Conclusion
    Like the previous ones, she suffer from being an old girl. She is not bad but even with the boosts she received, she still have some incoherent abilities and that make her good but not awesome. And she suffer from begin less good that her Radiant Princess version.
    She is a very solid 6* for beginners or for every day missions like event or story mode. But she can only be a nice placeholder for the hardest missions since she can't fil well in every curretn efficient teams archetypes. That's not a bad thing. Good 6* are still welcome. But that's don't make her a must have or a girl you can rely on with closed eyes.


    Final verdict:
    She is good but not enough, she suffer too much from being old and compared to her latter 6* version (and maybe her future new 6* versions since she seems to won every contests). But she still have some place in a lot of less serious teams. I hope she will get buff that make her better. Like damages on bosses. Or something like that.
    C Tier for me.

    I'm rude but I still love you my cute little Loli 5* Cattleya.

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