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  1. #7041

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gludateton View Post
    -- especially with this whole "double attack is rolled first" (which is probably not true, or at least not in a way that people think it is).--
    Somebody on these forums as of late did some small amounts of testing with Awakened Titania and Awakened Ares (while burning) and claimed that Double and Triple are scaled to 100%. Although the sample size was wayyyy too small, the results were still very strongly in favor of that theory.

    So if you have 200% Double and 100% Triple, you'll actually hit Double ~66% of the time and Triple ~33% of the time. If correct, that is.


  2. #7042
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Somebody on these forums as of late did some small amounts of testing with Awakened Titania and Awakened Ares (while burning) and claimed that Double and Triple are scaled to 100%.
    Yeah, that was me.
    Claim would be a too big word here, that's only my theory, which I think is more believable (or at least it is for me) than "double is rolled first.
    As for Rush topic, I actually want to check it's percentages with Yam's bows (I have 6 copies of them) someday, but seeing how my weapons' grids are not fully enhanced yet, don't expect it anywhere soon.

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    Oh, sorry. I am terrible when it comes to remembering names
    Quote Originally Posted by Gludateton View Post
    --
    As for Rush topic, I actually want to check it's percentages with Yam's bows (I have 6 copies of them) someday, but seeing how my weapons' grids are not fully enhanced yet, don't expect it anywhere soon.
    If they're slvl1, you could test the base now? Even that is unknown. Without knowing the base, we can't tell how much each skill level gives...

  4. #7044
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Registered View Post
    Sorry. Most of these new advent rewards after Kyuuki have been utter garbage. Illuyanka gun... HP L Rush S. Okayyyyy. Medjed gun... Hp L Pride S??? Python Staff... Vigor M Hp S, Dark x Vigor LOL ... Marchosias Engine... Single skill Exceed L. Seriously? You can't even expect anything good even if these... junk gets FLB god knows how many years from now. It's clear that the devs just throw whatever random shit they feel like for these supposedly rewards for newbies. Newbies missing the old advent reruns for FLB? Congratulations. You're fucked.
    Vigor is pretty good cuz it looks like it could stack with Pride. Read somewhere on this forum:

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    'special attack' is a separate type/category/multiplier. 'character' is one multiplier, 'element' is another multiplier, 'special attack' is yet another multiplier. So, it can be rather potent, depending on the restrictions. It's like how the vigorous skill (which also counts as special attack) has some nasty potential, but realizing it is a bit strict (you need at least near full HP).
    For the event eidolons with that passive (at MLB), it gives [10 + 40 * (1 - HP/MHP)]% special attack. So a minimum of +10% at full HP, then gains +1% for every 2.5% HP lost.
    That Assault (L) weapon from the Sphinx Advent did nothing for me. I think I messed up my grid somewhere.

  5. #7045
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Oh, sorry. I am terrible when it comes to remembering names If they're slvl1, you could test the base now? Even that is unknown. Without knowing the base, we can't tell how much each skill level gives...
    Well, I can, maybe even will get to it, but if chance is anything lower than 0.5% on 1 slvl... at least somewhere around 10k samples would be required.
    That's quite a good idea though, after all if it's quite high chance (about 1%) it would cut whole "S Rush at 20 slvl is 1%" debate short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lalala View Post
    Vigor is pretty good cuz it looks like it could stack with Pride. --
    The nasty part of Vigor is that you really, REALLY need to be at high HP to use it. The gains are halved at ~83% HP already, and you get NOTHING at half HP.

    So, unlike Pride which is always on and comes to your aid in your greatest hour of need, Vigor basically tells you to fuck right off unless you're running double healers. Since these forums seem like they hate Pride weapons for some reason, I can't wait until we start getting Vigor weapons and people loving them.

  7. #7047
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    The nasty part of Vigor is that you really, REALLY need to be at high HP to use it. The gains are halved at ~83% HP already, and you get NOTHING at half HP.

    So, unlike Pride which is always on and comes to your aid in your greatest hour of need, Vigor basically tells you to fuck right off unless you're running double healers. Since these forums seem like they hate Pride weapons for some reason, I can't wait until we start getting Vigor weapons and people loving them.
    Holy Crap! That's why this guy whom I think started at the same time as me and running Belle as an off-element healer is doing 1.5 x damage I am!

  8. #7048
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    Quote Originally Posted by lalala View Post
    Holy Crap! That's why this guy whom I think started at the same time as me and running Belle as an off-element healer is doing 1.5 x damage I am!

    Excuse the bad grammar. Thanks to you, Slashley, you're gonna help make vigor weapons the best thing since sliced bread on this forum!

    A guaranteed 10% and above boost at the start of battle is always a good thing, innit?

  9. #7049
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    Quote Originally Posted by lalala View Post
    What's the best time to drop a heal and how does the turn system work between players? I wonder if there is an FAQ for people who want to contribute more effectively to raids.
    No such thing. You either join RTC channels/software that some Japanese or Chinese unions use, or Discord, among English speaking players. You communicate and coordinate. When that is not an option such as being in a pub, you simply try to use and speed through the CD of your Raid heal / Raid dmg cut as quickly as you can.

  10. #7050
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Registered View Post
    No such thing. You either join RTC channels/software that some Japanese or Chinese unions use, or Discord, among English speaking players. You communicate and coordinate. When that is not an option such as being in a pub, you simply try to use and speed through the CD of your Raid heal / Raid dmg cut as quickly as you can.
    Hmm... Since I'm playing on the Japanese server and I don't speak Japanese I guess that is not an option for me. It appears that the boss charge meter runs separately for each player but when I cast charge down it hits so I'm wondering if it works for some other player. If I have Joan's EX stackable Def up does it affect the whole raid or just the player?

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