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    The atk buff is capped via the fact that it has a duration. 12 turn duration = 6 applications at best, for peak value of 120% assault.
    No cap on def listed; doesn't seem like people have tried hanging around for 20/25/30/etc. turns without casting any buffs to see. It's that quandary of needing an enemy that can survive that long as well as not killing you in the meantime :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    The atk buff is capped via the fact that it has a duration. 12 turn duration = 6 applications at best, for peak value of 120% assault.
    No cap on def listed; doesn't seem like people have tried hanging around for 20/25/30/etc. turns without casting any buffs to see. It's that quandary of needing an enemy that can survive that long as well as not killing you in the meantime :/
    Guess I play too much of a stall build seeing I can go 20+ turns to take only a quarter off Ragna Amphi's (Valentine event) HP... Which is probably my main motivation for asking the question in the first place, cause my setup is pretty much a turtle build.

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    Can you pull that off with just 4 characters though? Or do you need all 5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Can you pull that off with just 4 characters though? Or do you need all 5?
    Mordred sniper shot/ D'Art black propaganda SSR Nike Sol Raphael (so max atk debuff I think?) with Ouroboros Echidna for the extra blind and dizzy, especially if not using Mordred. My 5th character slot goes to Ea for damage, and mostly because I just ran out of SSR hime to work with, and I don't really have good SR light/ water hime at the moment, save for a Triton I'm still levelling.

    Edit: I realise from reading the JP wiki that I should really start working on a damage build... some of the quests (like rank 5 accessory) seem to work on a kill or be killed basis, regardless of how tanky my team could possibly be lol.
    Last edited by Cobblemaniac; 02-21-2018 at 10:49 AM.

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    Well, if you pull light Nike, you could probably test her against Iwanagahime, the fire raid that's like the first or second event after her introduction. Or maybe by the time we get there, someone will have tested it.

    What, those 50k+ hit all overdrives sound intimidating? Pssh, that's 80-100% damage cut strategies' time to shine :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    What, those 50k+ hit all overdrives sound intimidating? Pssh, that's 80-100% damage cut strategies' time to shine :P
    If 50k is after Atk debuffs, then -80% isn't enough.

    Though, hard to say what our powerlevels will look like by then. There's still a full year before that raid, so we're basically halfway there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Well, if you pull light Nike, you could probably test her against Iwanagahime, the fire raid that's like the first or second event after her introduction. Or maybe by the time we get there, someone will have tested it.

    What, those 50k+ hit all overdrives sound intimidating? Pssh, that's 80-100% damage cut strategies' time to shine :P
    Wait, forgive me for not knowing, but that's possible with the himes we get? I don't see an immune all option from any of the skills, and the debuff cap is active, so is there something else I'm missing?

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    Oh, general purpose damage cuts, element resistance buffs, and reflects stack additively into one term. So if you use a 40% damage cut (like from Joan), then add something like Cupid's +30% fire resist buff when fighting against a fire enemy. That's (40%+30%=70%) reduction of damage. Reiki's summon effect throws another +15% resist against fire on there. Bam, 85% damage reduction from fire.
    Eidolon passives like Jack Frost's should stack with resist buffs (but I'm not 100% on this), so double Jack, Cupid's buff, Reiki summon, and Joan's damage cut all together should reduce damage to 0 from fire.

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