Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Kuso

My main ele is fire, so I tend to struggle a lot against water (GO and access q). I know I should make a thunder team but my luck with thunder himes sucks, so I need some advice

Here's my SSR list: imgur.com/a/AR6xVLf

About eidolon, I have MLB heca, flatbird, takemikazuchi and a 0LB anubis (this here is the reason why dark is still a choice despite how shitty my dark himes are compared to other ele)

to be honest, asking for 2nd element and saying that your luck witht hunder hime sucks made me think you're somewhat new player with not that much SSR kamis.
then i open the pic and be like "...is he serious? with this much SSR kami in all element he should have balanced all of his weapon grids"
in my opinion, 2nd team is something more suitable for new players, players with this much SSR kami like yours should just balance all of his grids as he can make a good team for them and counter all elements
personally, i would go fo dark as you have anubis, 100% eido are kinda rare so having 1 with no good use is a waste.
if not for it, i would go for light or something, but again..i think you should aim to balance all of them

Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

to be honest, asking for 2nd element and saying that your luck witht hunder hime sucks made me think you're somewhat new player with not that much SSR kamis.
then i open the pic and be like "...is he serious? with this much SSR kami in all element he should have balanced all of his weapon grids"
in my opinion, 2nd team is something more suitable for new players, players with this much SSR kami like yours should just balance all of his grids as he can make a good team for them and counter all elements
personally, i would go fo dark as you have anubis, 100% eido are kinda rare so having 1 with no good use is a waste.
if not for it, i would go for light or something, but again..i think you should aim to balance all of them

Right now Im not done with fire yet (need 2 more hime, and FLB more weapon) so skill up weapon/awaken hime/mtix other elements are not possible. 2nd team is only for fighting against water anyway so I want to choose a team that dont require more investment for that role.

I've been investing too much on fire, so turning back isnt an option right now anyway

Originally Posted by Kuso

Right now Im not done with fire yet (need 2 more hime, and FLB more weapon) so skill up weapon/awaken hime/mtix other elements are not possible. 2nd team is only for fighting against water anyway so I want to choose a team that dont require more investment for that role.

I've been investing too much on fire, so turning back isnt an option right now anyway

Lol, in that case, you shouldn't say something like your "luck with thunder himes sucks" (considering that you basically have pretty much all of them) and say something more like "I'm too lazy to work on more than 1 grid so I'm just trying to one-trick-pony as a single element." I basically thought the same thing captainnoob did when I saw your question coupled with your pics.

As for countering water AQs and GOs with fire, it's definitely possible, but yes if you're going in with elemental weakness and have incomplete grids, then you should expect pain. I was able to clear jorm GO with my fire team just for fun, and the team from your pic seems to have all the ideal fire himes needed for it. Though if you're going against water, you probably want to replace out Dakki with something else... maybe AW Ares? Anyway as long as you have a decently built up grid for it, I imagine you'll be able to manage just fine... so keep working on your grid I guess? Also it seems from your pics, you play on dmm version, which means your AQs go up to 5 (or 6 now?) there I guess, while most of the players here are from the Nutaku version so personally I myself don't have any experience with AQ5s or AQ6s. But again, I imagine they are probably clear-able even with element disadvantage as long as your grid is up to the standard. So just stop being lazy with grids I guess? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Originally Posted by VeryVoodoo

Lol, in that case, you shouldn't say something like your "luck with thunder himes sucks" (considering that you basically have pretty much all of them) and say something more like "I'm too lazy to work on more than 1 grid so I'm just trying to one-trick-pony as a single element." I basically thought the same thing captainnoob did when I saw your question coupled with your pics.

As for countering water AQs and GOs with fire, it's definitely possible, but yes if you're going in with elemental weakness and have incomplete grids, then you should expect pain. I was able to clear jorm GO with my fire team just for fun, and the team from your pic seems to have all the ideal fire himes needed for it. Though if you're going against water, you probably want to replace out Dakki with something else... maybe AW Ares? Anyway as long as you have a decently built up grid for it, I imagine you'll be able to manage just fine... so keep working on your grid I guess? Also it seems from your pics, you play on dmm version, which means your AQs go up to 5 (or 6 now?) there I guess, while most of the players here are from the Nutaku version so personally I myself don't have any experience with AQ5s or AQ6s. But again, I imagine they are probably clear-able even with element disadvantage as long as your grid is up to the standard. So just stop being lazy with grids I guess? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

My thunder team lacks 2 crucial himes (unleashed baal and thunder aphro), not to mention I have to stick to charles blast + mamon so the damage is greatly lowered. That element is my weakest.

Someone in my friend list has 74k atk on his soul on wind team (shingen build btw) and he can take mvp on high fire rags easily. That's what I'm aiming to reach (and it wont be easy unless I focus on only 1 ele). Not like Im lazy y'know

The GO boss will change in the future (the list will be cthugha - turtle - icarus - sandalphon - barong - jack lantern) and while my thunder team can beat the turtle, it took like 20 mins to clear (my fire team can clear other GO in less than 10 min) so I need something else to deal with water GO (just in case they might change it in the future again)

Same thing with access 5th layer, I gave up on 6th layer already since thunder team is too weak to handle it

Maybe I can deal with them in the future when my fire grid is done? But right now, nope. I need something other than fire and thunder

Originally Posted by Kuso

My thunder team lacks 2 crucial himes (unleashed baal and thunder aphro), not to mention I have to stick to charles blast + mamon so the damage is greatly lowered. That element is my weakest.

Someone in my friend list has 74k atk on his soul on wind team (shingen build btw) and he can take mvp on high fire rags easily. That's what I'm aiming to reach (and it wont be easy unless I focus on only 1 ele). Not like Im lazy y'know

The GO boss will change in the future (the list will be cthugha - turtle - icarus - sandalphon - barong - jack lantern) and while my thunder team can beat the turtle, it took like 20 mins to clear (my fire team can clear other GO in less than 10 min) so I need something else to deal with water GO (just in case they might change it in the future again)

Same thing with access 5th layer, I gave up on 6th layer already since thunder team is too weak to handle it

Maybe I can deal with them in the future when my fire grid is done? But right now, nope. I need something other than fire and thunder

You make it almost sound like you need every single SSR hime for an element in order for it to be worth using. For the record, that's not true for the content you were originally asking about (AQs and GOs). That content can be cleared even with SR-only teams. Though I do agree that baal and aphro are definitely crucial for thunder. But with the amount of SSR himes in your pics, you should really not be having trouble with that content. Your original post stated you "struggle a lot against water" AQ + Go content. Now it just seems to be a matter of the time it takes to clear I guess, so it's become a different matter it seems. Anyway if I had access to all those himes, hell I'd probably be AAB'ing every element's GOs instead of just only with fire for quetz currently (and yes, I'm aware the current GOs we have will change later on). As for high rags, we don't have them here yet, so I have no experience with them. So I can only wish you luck in your quest to clear them with elemental weakness I guess. :>

Originally Posted by VeryVoodoo

You make it almost sound like you need every single SSR hime for an element in order for it to be worth using. For the record, that's not true for the content you were originally asking about (AQs and GOs). That content can be cleared even with SR-only teams. Though I do agree that baal and aphro are definitely crucial for thunder. But with the amount of SSR himes in your pics, you should really not be having trouble with that content. Your original post stated you "struggle a lot against water" AQ + Go content. Now it just seems to be a matter of the time it takes to clear I guess, so it's become a different matter it seems. Anyway if I had access to all those himes, hell I'd probably be AAB'ing every element's GOs instead of just only with fire for quetz currently (and yes, I'm aware the current GOs we have will change later on). As for high rags, we don't have them here yet, so I have no experience with them. So I can only wish you luck in your quest to clear them with elemental weakness I guess. :>

You are right about the struggle part with water GO (sorry, i should be more clear about it). But against AQ 5th layer, my thunder team is indeed struggle with it (cant stun the boss in 5 turn, usually get 3-4 himes killed on the process)

And well, you certainly dont need all SSRs to make an element worth using, but you need some certain ones (like baal in thunder) to make it worth using over other elements. And since I dont have them, it's better to choose a 2nd ele to work with.

Maybe someone can clear access q 5th and 6th layer with sr himes, but it's like solo high rags (doable but not recommended). Those layer are the contents that need some investment after all.

Also I feel like this has derailed somewhat, isnt it?

Originally Posted by Kuso

You are right about the struggle part with water GO (sorry, i should be more clear about it). But against AQ 5th layer, my thunder team is indeed struggle with it (cant stun the boss in 5 turn, usually get 3-4 himes killed on the process)

And well, you certainly dont need all SSRs to make an element worth using, but you need some certain ones (like baal in thunder) to make it worth using over other elements. And since I dont have them, it's better to choose a 2nd ele to work with.

Maybe someone can clear access q 5th and 6th layer with sr himes, but it's like solo high rags (doable but not recommended). Those layer are the contents that need some investment after all.

Also I feel like this has derailed somewhat, isnt it?

AQ5+6 aren't anywhere near the difficulty of soloing high rags. It honestly just sounds you like have a bad thunder grid since those hime and hercules shouldn't have any problem with AQ5+6(to be fair I haven't seen water's 2nd round yet on AQ6, but AQ6 is kind of a joke so far) or any water GO with a decent grid.

Originally Posted by Kuso

But against AQ 5th layer, my thunder team is indeed struggle with it (cant stun the boss in 5 turn, usually get 3-4 himes killed on the process)

Hmm, out of curiosity is it possible for you to show a pic of your thunder wpn grid for reference?

My thunder team is a lot more limited than your thunder team both in terms of quantity and probably quality as well.

Here's what I'm using for thunder currently for reference (ignore the thunder Michael as sub, I got her just this week so she's not lvl'ed up yet, she'll probably replace Astraea later on) and also the grid I'm using currently, though sometimes I switch a few wpns in it (everything is max SL of course): https://imgur.com/a/USXPgvG

Is this currently not good enough to clear AQ5s?

Originally Posted by Kuso

Maybe someone can clear access q 5th and 6th layer with sr himes, but it's like solo high rags (doable but not recommended). Those layer are the contents that need some investment after all.

You may be right. I could just be speaking out of my ass, since I have no experience with AQ5s as of yet. I've also invested 0$ on my thunder team. Somehow, I still feel like I'll be able to clear it when it comes here though. It can't be that much more difficult than water GOs right? Like even if it was twice as difficult, it would still be easily cleared I think?

Originally Posted by Kuso

Also I feel like this has derailed somewhat, isnt it?

Nah, this is the general discussion thread after all, and we're just generally discussing the game, so I'm sure it's fine. :>