Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Tbh you are talking BS!
I am pretty sure you have way more water SSR than me. But you just didnt prepare your fucking grid for Tower.
And I am sure you know the first Tower is fire. You had enough time to prepare your grid for that shit.
Just because your "light" team is strong af... nobodoy cares, dark Tower will come in a year. What has your light to do with fire Tower? Besides F15.

One of my Union members has 2 water SSR and he managed till F15, though he fucked up F15 but still... and he started 7 months ago.

Thats just a fucking excuse... "My water is weak" ... Don't cry, if a guy with 2 water SSR and who started 7 months ago, can get till F15, then your tower result is just pathetic in my eyes.
And no he dosen't have a Rudra.
If you think you are right, then show us in the next Tower that you can do it... you have more than a month time to get your thunder grid ready.

Now then, Magic was 'attacking' the statement of "Tower floor 15 actually wasn't even the least bit difficult", so ask your Union Member that didn't clear it if 15F is difficult or not (that was the point).
And hell... yes, he could do this if he wanted (enhanced his grid), but what if he has better things to do ?
Also, apparently people in top 50 didn't clear 15F, so it definitely is not difficult.

I recently pulled Neptune. Am i missing something because she seems pretty bad. Like sub team at best.

My water team is: Aphro, Cthulhu, Shiva, and Triton.

You are not missing anything, she's not great unless you have luck and she doesn't get hit. She will get some serious buffs that will make her more viable, but in general she's pretty risky pick (can deal serious damage in right conditions, but if things go wrong she's lackluster at least).

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Tbh you are talking BS!
I am pretty sure you have way more water SSR than me. But you just didnt prepare your fucking grid for Tower.
And I am sure you know the first Tower is fire. You had enough time to prepare your grid for that shit.
Just because your "light" team is strong af... nobodoy cares, dark Tower will come in a year. What has your light to do with fire Tower? Besides F15.

One of my Union members has 2 water SSR and he managed till F15, though he fucked up F15 but still... and he started 7 months ago.

Thats just a fucking excuse... "My water is weak" ... Don't cry, if a guy with 2 water SSR and who started 7 months ago, can get till F15, then your tower result is just pathetic in my eyes.
And no he dosen't have a Rudra.
If you think you are right, then show us in the next Tower that you can do it... you have more than a month time to get your thunder grid ready.

-Only has Aphrodite, Saraswati, and Snow Raphael. In fact, I got screenshots of my water kami here:



-focused on mainly building one team (though did spread to fire and wind when they started coming up. Guess what, THAT WAS A SUGGESTION A FEW PEOPLE ON HERE GAVE ME

-7+ months doesn't mean crap if you can't/don't play the game most of the time. Not everyone can devote all their time to just one game and if you do somehow manage to put a lot of time and effort into this despite doing multiple things, then kudos... but I'M. NOT. YOU.

-oh, your union member screwed up floor 15 meaning they got 14 floors cleared? So did I. And i used that "weak water grid" up til floor 10 to do so. Then I used fire til the last day after that, then finished my last two keys with light.

-oh, dark tower is a long ways away.... NOT WORRIED ABOUT ELEMENT ADVANTAGE MISSION MEDALS WHEN I DON'T HAVE OPTIMAL KAMI. cause honestly, my previous tower run still got 11k medals... looks like i'm doing something right if i still made enough medals to get the brick...

-that union member doesn't have Rudra, but do they have any gacha eidolons as a main? you do know they can go higher than 40% right? and with a skill lv20 relic weapon and someone like a lv100 Fafnir, you got 90% elemental attack right there without a friend eidolon anyway. Even doing something like Tiamat with a soul weapon is still 70% when you cap both.

-yeah, i can get thunder ready.... still dealing with this as my kami so let me know if this is still promising enough to clear all 15 floors WITH ELEMENTAL ADVANTAGE or I'm going back to using my light teams again on the higher floors:




so again, if i'm still doing the objective (which honestly for tower is to get 10k+ medals each time), who gives a shit? My only issue with accessory quests anyway is that a fucking platinum chest won't drop for shit. cause that light team that so many want to shit on so badly around here, they're clearing ALL 7 DAYS OF AQ4 IN ROUGHLY 7 MINS OR LESS. CLEARING. IS. NOT. AN. ISSUE. Not sure why there's such a damn elitist stigma around here where you have to have 60k atk rating and do like 10 mil damage bursts or something. I want to CLEAR CONTENT, not make it my bitch. Save that power hungry BS for players that actually want to top leaderboards. I just want the good event stuff, and then to move on.

seriously, this crap is getting really out of hand. not even gonna bring this up anymore cause it's really going too damn far

So I have two elements that are my strongest teams, so far. I'm looking to awaken my first hime ever and I have a lot of choices. Ultimately, I'll be able to awaken more than one, but for now I'm looking to awaken the hime I'll be playing with the most. Which also means, I'm trying to figure out whether I should main Dark or Light on a regular basis going into most battles. I also just spent my MTix (on Sol) so I'm done until the next pull...

My current Dark Team:
Has about 32.4k Atk
SSRs: Hades, Chernobog, Osiris, Satan, and Susanoo (reserve)
SRs: Eligos
Soul: Hercules with Axe (zero stars)
Grid: 9 Atk, 1 Defender. 3 SSRs and 7 SRs all around Slvl 12-14

My current Light Team:
Has about 30.5 Atk
SSRs: Michael, Sol, and Light Satan
SRs: Sati and Uranus (reserve)
Rs: Caspiel
Soul: Hercules with Axe (zero stars)
Grid: 6 Atk, 1 Defender. 1 SSR and 6 SRs all around Slvl 10-12


As you can see, both grids and teams are still a work in progress. While the current YuleGoat event will get me to a 9 Light grid (with just 1 other weapon), I still need to spend all items getting the grid up to Slvl 20 and also do the Rag battles to get 3 more copies of the Light or Dark Axe for a full Hercules weapon. I don't mind MTix again for Light to get a full SSR team, but that will be within the next 3-4 months timeframe (but I'm just fine with waiting also).

So which team do I take to make my main and which hime do I awaken?


DEJNOV

Originally Posted by Dejnov

So I have two elements that are my strongest teams, so far. I'm looking to awaken my first hime ever and I have a lot of choices. Ultimately, I'll be able to awaken more than one, but for now I'm looking to awaken the hime I'll be playing with the most. Which also means, I'm trying to figure out whether I should main Dark or Light on a regular basis going into most battles. I also just spent my MTix (on Sol) so I'm done until the next pull...

My current Dark Team:
Has about 32.4k Atk
SSRs: Hades, Chernobog, Osiris, Satan, and Susanoo (reserve)
SRs: Eligos
Soul: Hercules with Axe (zero stars)
Grid: 9 Atk, 1 Defender. 3 SSRs and 7 SRs all around Slvl 12-14

My current Light Team:
Has about 30.5 Atk
SSRs: Michael, Sol, and Light Satan
SRs: Sati and Uranus (reserve)
Rs: Caspiel
Soul: Hercules with Axe (zero stars)
Grid: 6 Atk, 1 Defender. 1 SSR and 6 SRs all around Slvl 10-12


As you can see, both grids and teams are still a work in progress. While the current YuleGoat event will get me to a 9 Light grid (with just 1 other weapon), I still need to spend all items getting the grid up to Slvl 20 and also do the Rag battles to get 3 more copies of the Light or Dark Axe for a full Hercules weapon. I don't mind MTix again for Light to get a full SSR team, but that will be within the next 3-4 months timeframe (but I'm just fine with waiting also).

So which team do I take to make my main and which hime do I awaken?


DEJNOV

I'm a noob, but I'm assuming the one you have a better or 100% eidolon for? Dark and Light teams compliment each other for farming accessories/content I guess.

Micheal will likely have her awakening in January, unless they delay it a month like DMM did, then February. Unless you're confident you can get another 3 full eyes by then, I'd save for her, that is if you're going light. If you're still struggling to clear content, then Sol.

If dark then Satan so you can reach -50% def down with Hercules using her ax at max break. If you plan to draw the upcoming gacha and manage get Dark Amaterasu, if she's available, or Samuel, that might change.

Originally Posted by lalala

What? You mean you only have *that* much more firepower than MagicSpice? Here I was thinking you were a super DMM vet...

And I don't think he means to show off. It isn't just about raw stats after all but finding out how you can hack at it with less than optimal resources. As for having a sizable collection of SSRs, it's nice to have a little bit of spare cash to spend on the game, no? I wonder if there are so many dolphins here, how come there is so much focus on optimal teams rather than actual game strategy?

Ah, but first have some context, he's a 2 year old vet compared to my one year old account. You may get the impression that I'm a super DMM vet because I talk a lot of future DMM content... but that's the power of future sight when taco is behind by 1 year. And that I talk to players who also know about the DMM future. Doesn't mean I have to have a godly grid.

Friendly reminder that the light grid I have is pretty much the best an f2p player might get for now... give or take another +/-10 % assault and +/-10-15% defender. Dolphins don't usually get enough to significantly influence their grid either. Spice on the other hand... well you ask him how much he spent.

And for more context, we are indeed talking about a guy who does whale, who does actually do videos (quite frankly, crazy long ones) on the game, but somehow lacks the resources and the knowledge about the game? I do struggle to understand how RNG can fuck one over so hard for him to have less than optimal resources after spending thousands on the game.

Also... optimal teams are strategy. You can argue work with what you have, but ultimately the meta teams still win. Welcome to gacha games. We have cookies.

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

-Only has Aphrodite, Saraswati, and Snow Raphael. In fact, I got screenshots of my water kami here:



-focused on mainly building one team (though did spread to fire and wind when they started coming up. Guess what, THAT WAS A SUGGESTION A FEW PEOPLE ON HERE GAVE ME

-7+ months doesn't mean crap if you can't/don't play the game most of the time. Not everyone can devote all their time to just one game and if you do somehow manage to put a lot of time and effort into this despite doing multiple things, then kudos... but I'M. NOT. YOU.

-oh, your union member screwed up floor 15 meaning they got 14 floors cleared? So did I. And i used that "weak water grid" up til floor 10 to do so. Then I used fire til the last day after that, then finished my last two keys with light.

-oh, dark tower is a long ways away.... NOT WORRIED ABOUT ELEMENT ADVANTAGE MISSION MEDALS WHEN I DON'T HAVE OPTIMAL KAMI. cause honestly, my previous tower run still got 11k medals... looks like i'm doing something right if i still made enough medals to get the brick...

-that union member doesn't have Rudra, but do they have any gacha eidolons as a main? you do know they can go higher than 40% right? and with a skill lv20 relic weapon and someone like a lv100 Fafnir, you got 90% elemental attack right there without a friend eidolon anyway. Even doing something like Tiamat with a soul weapon is still 70% when you cap both.

-yeah, i can get thunder ready.... still dealing with this as my kami so let me know if this is still promising enough to clear all 15 floors WITH ELEMENTAL ADVANTAGE or I'm going back to using my light teams again on the higher floors:




so again, if i'm still doing the objective (which honestly for tower is to get 10k+ medals each time), who gives a shit? My only issue with accessory quests anyway is that a fucking platinum chest won't drop for shit. cause that light team that so many want to shit on so badly around here, they're clearing ALL 7 DAYS OF AQ4 IN ROUGHLY 7 MINS OR LESS. CLEARING. IS. NOT. AN. ISSUE. Not sure why there's such a damn elitist stigma around here where you have to have 60k atk rating and do like 10 mil damage bursts or something. I want to CLEAR CONTENT, not make it my bitch. Save that power hungry BS for players that actually want to top leaderboards. I just want the good event stuff, and then to move on.

seriously, this crap is getting really out of hand. not even gonna bring this up anymore cause it's really going too damn far

If your concern is clearing content then I can put it to you this way, your grid won't save you from future content. Hell, even I'm sure mine won't. You can just start burning in... 4 months then.

Then again, you don't seem to understand that clearing content means you actually do something like touch 15F tower. Getting 10k medals is a goal to improve, not a "Oh I got this amount of things I cleared the game!" kind of deal. What you want is to scrape by the game. Don't mix the 2 together.

Then if you tell me that's end game content and not worth clearing... does anything more need to be said?



Moar edits: The baseline I want to say is this, your grids are not strong. You want to know what the problem I have with you is? It's that you continue trying to justify why having bad grids is ok in this game for everyone.

"Hell, the floor 11 enemies gave my best fire teams some trouble to the point of where I had actually died in a run. Granted they had about 90% assault, but they can still self buff like crazy and with a friend belial each attempt, I had 160% elem atk" - tower thread

"i might be considered a whale.... but doesn't help unless my water team is capable of smashing GO.... more so, i'm still missing some strong water hime like Cthulhu..." - also tower thread

You see the issues I'm seeing? It gives me the impression that you're saying "I have a trash grid, but it's ok as long as I have xx and x." It feels delusional to me. You already lost, you know the issue, yet you actively avoid the problem with your own justifications. And worse, those same justifications begin to creep into your advice for other players. I've seen it, I'm sure a bunch of other players have.

i wonder if anyone actually expects anyone to read this shit

Originally Posted by Kitty

i wonder if anyone actually expects anyone to read this shit

Tfw when they actually do. We all got too much time on our hands