Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

To be fair the lower tier light himes actually REALLY need it. Due to the power of the op light himes, normal ones just seems like complete trash in comparison. This is why they have been systematically buffing them and giving them AW. Hopefully once they go through them all (there aren't many left to buff) they'll finally move on to another element to attract whales with.

buffing every "normal" hime of same element, then moving to other? that's quite... "interesting" logic.

Originally Posted by AutoCrimson

buffing every "normal" hime of same element, then moving to other? that's quite... "interesting" logic.

I don't know about "logic", but that's LITERALLY what they are doing with light (some more than others, obviously). Putting aside the really new ones and the already op ones, the only one that they haven't touched so far is light Satan, and that probably won't happen until she comes back next Christmas.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

the only one that they haven't touched so far is light Satan

Errr... They've already buffed her since a loooooong time ago.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Errr... They've already buffed her since a loooooong time ago.

Oh right... in the first buff cycle. For some reason it completely slipped my mind, I guess that's how bad it is that she still feels pretty lack luster after it.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Oh right... in the first buff cycle. For some reason it completely slipped my mind, I guess that's how bad it is that she still feels pretty lack luster after it.

Well, lackluster in comparison to the rest of the light pool is a given, but that's kinda an unfair comparison considering that rest of the light pool is unbelievably borken...

... in comparison to elements like dark which get utterly shafted in so many aspects. Seriously. Can Pluto not be the only one to be a team player in a dark setup, and can dark get something to buff their BG cycle as a whole?

Edit:
LSatan's buffs: GDA becomes GDATA, nuke comes down to 5t cd, skill 2 becomes 6t cd and gains additional crit buff. Burst effect: additional pursuit dmg on normal atks for 3t.

... which isn't phenomenal to say, but at least it isn't utter garbage.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

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... in comparison to elements like dark which get utterly shafted in so many aspects. Seriously. Can Pluto not be the only one to be a team player in a dark setup, and can dark get something to buff their BG cycle as a whole?

Is Pluto even a party player?

Ability 1: Her block generation is so damn slow. While it is nice how much Combo she has when those blocks are up, those blocks WILL be gone the next time she bursts. And then she can be block-less for a long time.
Ability 2: She has a pretty nice +Atk +Elem buff, but it consumes a block, has a short duration and long cooldown. Resulting in pathetic uptime and thus really only good for boosting your Full Burst turns.
Ability 3: She has damage cut, but suffers from the exact same problem. It's great-ish against Light (-50% damage cut for two turns is nice!), but against everything else the long cooldown just kills this entirely. Yay, you can save yourself from damage once. But it won't be ready for the second time, or even the third, so you'll just die anyway.
Burst: While it's nice to hit the 1000% burst modifier cap (or should I say 500% base + 500% modifier?) with ease thanks to blocks (starting from turn7), this is... pretty much all she does well.

Overall, I was impressed with Pluto when I rolled her, but now she just feels... off. She only has a place in the team for her high burst damage, which she does once per fight. I suppose if there was content that'd nicely cycle in 7 turns so that you could burst -> block up, it'd be nice-ISH... ... until you remember that her damage buff is too slow to keep up with that. But for now, you're either holding onto your abi1 until burst or bursting the blocks out and not having any for long periods of time.

Pluto just really needs an Awakening that puts her blocks outside of the 500% burst boost hard cap, speeds up her block generation significantly and lower the cooldowns of her partybuffs significantly. You know, so that there's actually be player choice on when to use blocks and when to save them for a higher burst.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Legos

Umm.

First thing first... legos aren't subjected to the 500% burst dmg up cap. So the numbers can get crazier.

Second... why would you hold on to skill 1 until bursting? The run would normally go like: cast skill 1 at turn 0, wait for turn 5 or so to burst because dark is a slow motherfucker but thank god for Shingen MEX, legos come back on turn 6.

Third... you're breezing over her DATA from legos. That can't fly. Pluto with legos is one of the only few consistently fast BG gainers in dark. Remember about da burst.

Dmg cut

Um. Friendly reminder that this is 50% dmg cut on the same hime that holds her own (or hell, even carries) in terms of damage output? That's kinda the problem of dissecting each move one by one... what about looking at the entire hime as a whole?

Also... find me another dark hime on meta which has that kinda dmg cut... Hades AW rebalance gets a light res but that don't come in until a year later.

Team player

The very definition of a team player never relied on the cd of their skills to begin with unless absolutely atrocious. I don't see Pluto holding back the rest of dark in that aspect, she's never the one to fall behind in BG, her burst is pretty good, she got that dmg cut. What other dark hime does this better?

Pluto AW

Well... I won't deny you that one. To me Pluto makes or breaks dark as a whole... which is kinda sad considering her skillset wouldn't be the most absolutely broken thing you witness (that title probably belongs to Mike AW or Iris...), attesting to how sad the dark meta will become. But one can only hope. It's been 1 year 2 months since the last dark AW.