Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
You make it sound like human conflict is inherently a bad thing.

Aside from that, there isn't much to reply to. As far as I can tell, you're basically saying that a 5/7 uptime is just as good as 2/8 uptime. And how raid Joan + your Pluto will make you basically immune for a turn, which is fair enough, but you can also just wait for a second Joan. Or how you're trying to say that 50% Berserk is weaker than 20% Assault +30% Elemental.
... I'll not even comment on those.


Now then, off to test Pluto's charges. I'll edit this post later, unless there are other posts below this.

After a complete pain in the ass damage calculation (why didn't I use Pluto's buff on the previous turn when showing off damage, and RNG from mobs triggering three Pride Axes... thank fucking god I had the last moment idea of "what if they ALL hit Pluto this very turn?" and debuffed Combo-), I've concluded that Pluto's stacks are indeed part NOT part of the 500% burst damage up cap. And unlike what I speculate in the video, they are indeed 100% each. My old damage Calc claims 1.28m pre-cap with that calculation, and that's easily damage range of the 1.23m which happened. And speaking of speculations, my 800-900k speculation was off as the 500% cap would've lead to ~754k damage.


That certainly does make Pluto better by quite a lot, since stacking up stacks beyond 3 won't be entirely wasted.
Alright since Gluda and cobble made their point about the whole berserk thing im only gonna say this. My original intent was never to say which one is better, i only had issue with you doing the 20% + 30% = 50% kinda math disregarding the different brackets for all 3 things. My only opinion of why it was better is that you can only normal attack with a berserk buff, while you can burst - use spells with pluto's buff and get a huge amount of spike damage

Now for the uptime issue. Yes i put michael there but my intent was to highlight the "Downtime" factor, however i worded that part like shit so that's my fault no questions asked. The "downtime" factor of pluto is a 50% Cut on element on a 6 turn Down time, compare that to most prominent cuts they are usually either on a 5 -4 turn down time and being a bit inferior to Joan's (usually by a 10-20% margin). Yes her CDs are long but it isn't as much of an issue as you made it to be

As for Joan, of course i expect you to know team work and coordination in those high rags, for this case since we are talking 50% damage cut a Light High rag. You can have that Joan use the HP weapon (it's not a bad weapon in terms of raid support) or you yourself activate a kaiser on top of a non HP weapon Joan and you would be fine. Plus you don't even need immunity for that entire turn, if you are using Dark and you have said Joan cut and Pluto's cut on you and you most likely will have some ATK downs on her the entire 5 hit wont do enough to actually kill a single unit that is unless your grid is under leveled to hell and not FLBed which isn't likely by the time the Light High Rag actually arrives

Again i have to highlight that im not trying to put Pluto on some goddamn pedestal, her CDs may make her a bit eh in people's eye but for an element like Dark? She would qualify as a team player, an amazing one regarding how little teamplay that element actually has