Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Slashley

Yeah, fair enough, I'll admit I entirely forgot about Exceed. Which is something a whale absolutely needs 100 skills levels in.Yeah, here's the problem. We're talking to a guy who literally just started. The only things he can get is 1 Shingen Lance and MAYBE 1 Typhon Lance. He missed Iwanaga SR Lance and the Vlad SSR Lance. Technically he can start getting Vlad Lances, but that's capped to 1 a month and costs 8 Ori for each LMB.

Hence why i said he can go for a Typhon spear ( the incoming one) and some SR Disasters and still make due with a phantom lance grid. That's basically how i got to clearing GO on dmm on about my second month on DMM. Got lucky with leeching and dropped the phantom spear. About the vlad spear yeah i'm still a mixed bag on it, he is new and he can't clear GOs yet and even so he might be better off not spending those Oris on other FLBs not the vlad lance so good point bout those

Has anyone actually tried out Water Diana on DMM? I managed to pull her but don't really know how to use her. She seems kinda slow to me but I'm probably just not using her right.

L. Athena is not slow though. 5T CD on abilities is quite fast for guard and dmg cut but unfortunately the damage cut is only 25%. With burst gauge increasing artifacts on other hime and L. Athena in the last spot she can burst rather fast.

One light R hime that is pretty useful which hasn't been mentioned here is Mikuru. She has increase 10 BG for everyone every 5 or 6 turns and 3 turns heal all for about 600 + damage (in lieu of attacking).

Val Baal's design is not that fantastic so I'll settle for Tish a-haha.

Diana has passive combo rate up (according to JP wiki 10% DA, 5% TA), +20 BG to self on burst and instant burst with 7T cooldown. Calling that slow is kinda weird to me.
Light Athena does not have any BG generating methods aside from getting hit (using cover), that is not fast, especially for light. Nobody's saying here that she's bad, she's very good tank (it's Athena after all), but she is indeed slow.

Mikuru aswell as VBaal are both limited, so it is kinda hard to bring those into a discussion for the average joe. Also, in that regard, you could choose VBaal over Mikuru and have more then just some BG and Heals.

VBaal needs some support but as soon as she gets it, she can speed your team up aswell as offer some protection. For the Mid-Tier player she is in most cases an actual improvement and in some combinations actually quite good.

Originally Posted by Gludateton

Diana has passive combo rate up (according to JP wiki 10% DA, 5% TA), +20 BG to self on burst and instant burst with 7T cooldown. Calling that slow is kinda weird to me.
Light Athena does not have any BG generating methods aside from getting hit (using cover), that is not fast, especially for light. Nobody's saying here that she's bad, she's very good tank (it's Athena after all), but she is indeed slow.

L. Athena works if you get hit often enough... like me... unfortunately. And since the skill is potentially active 2/5 turns that could possibly be a lot of burst generation potential. Plus you get free heals from bursting on top of that. And Diana is slow because by the time the skill CD is ready if you're getting hit often enough your BG will be like 70% full. So the skill is kind of useless. Plus the additional +20 BG increase upon burst is only to self. Compare this to Gabriel and Saraswati with faster skill CD and the ability to generate more than 20 BG and which also affects other party members. Diana is like L. Nike without the boobs. ;p

Just a question about Tower. Do you need to use x-1 himes when it says clear with x characters remaining? I've heard about people solo-ing with Solomon but don't you need to include the hime in the setup in order to clear the quest requirements? Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by lalala

Just a question about Tower. Do you need to use x-1 himes when it says clear with x characters remaining? I've heard about people solo-ing with Solomon but don't you need to include the hime in the setup in order to clear the quest requirements? Thanks in advance.

Yes. You put Solomon + 2 garbage R Hime on the lower floors, just for the mission.

Originally Posted by lalala

And Diana is slow because by the time the skill CD is ready if you're getting hit often enough your BG will be like 70% full. So the skill is kind of useless.

How is that even an argument ? This skill has pretty long cooldown, so using it -> burst, and then normally attacking, you'll have AT LEAST 80 BG before it's ready again (unless attacks are stopped or miss). But guess what, you don't have to use it for this missing whatever BG and use it later to solo-burst, providing party with 10 BG, or when she's at 100 BG, you can use it as damage buff, there are various options.

Originally Posted by lalala

Plus the additional +20 BG increase upon burst is only to self. Compare this to Gabriel and Saraswati with faster skill CD and the ability to generate more than 20 BG and which also affects other party members. Diana is like L. Nike without the boobs. ;p

Gabriel has longer cooldowns than Diana does, and using Diana's skill to generate burst as mentioned above will give more BG to party than whatever can Gabriel's skill provide.
As for Saraswati: yes she's quite fast, that's not argument for saying that Diana is slow though.

Originally Posted by lalala

Just a question about Tower. Do you need to use x-1 himes when it says clear with x characters remaining? I've heard about people solo-ing with Solomon but don't you need to include the hime in the setup in order to clear the quest requirements? Thanks in advance.

Soloing with Solomon means Solomon doing all the job. Yes, you need at least as many characters as mission says. So if it says 3, you need at least soul and 2 kamihime.

I'm pretty sure you're getting trolled...? Diana might not be the fastest around, but 7t guaranteed burst can easily be used to get 4t bursts by just pre using the skill and holding. This, in combo with her 4t vigor on 7t CDs... and heals to make it useful... and yet, being compared to Nike. Just... what?

seems that we'll have the half off AP on accessory quests after next maintenance... noice i guess

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm pretty sure you're getting trolled...? Diana might not be the fastest around, but 7t guaranteed burst can easily be used to get 4t bursts by just pre using the skill and holding. This, in combo with her 4t vigor on 7t CDs... and heals to make it useful... and yet, being compared to Nike. Just... what?

I don't even know if this counts as trolling. Every single post I've seen lalala make on this forum is a borken argument of how top tier himes don't compare to himes like Gabriel, og form or summer form.

Even I don't let my dick influence my argument that far...