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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    On the topic of phantom weapons, in general which phantom weapons work best with which elements
    That... depends on 2 things:

    1. Are you whale?
    2. What weapons in that element are good?

    Light (because it's such a fucking good element you can always remember it)


    If whale = No

    Axe grid (2 Yule axes, 3 UE axes. Alternatively 1 Herc axe into the mix if you don't have dupe Yule but then you're locked with Herc.)
    Staff grid (Andro staff, 3 UE staffs + 1 wild card + UE axes for the exceed + phoenix bow(s))

    If whale = Yes

    Spear grid (Shingen + Mike + Tish spear, balance accordingly for HP and exceed + Vishnu wheels)
    Special sword/ glaive grid (a fuck ton of vishnu wheels, possibly a random free glaive as a filler + UE axe/ Tish spear)
    Either is fine really.



    Fire


    If whale = No

    Budget spear grid (Shingen + 2 Typhon (eventually 3 with the recent DMM Typhon reprint) + 1/2 Vlad + Iwanaga SR spear (optional) + ... whatever best you get for free)

    If whale = Yes

    Sword grid (2 UE swords (you have to split the UE sword into 2 and brick them both... or wait 1000 years for the 2nd one) + 3 Ascalon + whatever HP stick you can have, preferably Nemea)
    Hammer grid (Nemea everywhere, maybe Iwanagahammer for filler)
    Whale spear grid (Mars spear everywhere. Typhon spear for filler). This is the optimal one IMO.

    Issue with fire: finding exceed. Fire UE is very far apart from each other. Uriel's gun might work as an exceed filler in the meantime... or Phaleg (fire guardian) axe.



    Wind


    If whale = No

    Good luck?

    If whale = Yes

    Staff grid (UE staffs + maybe Andro's staff + DE staff. Or Titania's staff because too much exceed?).
    Hammer grid (Gaia hammer + Garuda hammer). The lesser of the evils of wind whaling and a bit more balanced.
    Spear grid (Odin spears everywhere. And ofc Shingen. Exceed wise... wind and exceed :Rami

    oh and...

    Special sword grid (Cybele scissors + Bethor's (wind guardian) scythe). Yeah just pull a crap ton of Cybeles...

    nano.



    Water


    If whale = No

    IMO the best event weapons-only grid:

    Special sword grid (2 Rahab + 3 UE scythes + 1 Illuyanka hammer + 2 UE bows)

    If whale = yes

    Axe grid (Asherah axe + Mercury axe. Then toss in HP sticks)



    Thunder


    If whale = No

    Gun grid (UE guns + Phul (thunder guardian) guns + UE spears. If you have a Mammon gun that can fill in one Phul gun's slot too)

    If whale = Yes

    Spear grid (Baal U/ Athena spear + UE spears. The other skill sticks... probably just go with Raiko hammer)
    Hammer grid (mix of Raiko + Marduk hammers. The rest are wildcards)
    Whale gun grid (Full Mammon gun)
    Axe grid (Ukko axes + Justitia axe)



    Dark

    Oh boy I suck at this one...


    If whale = No

    Axe grid (UE axes + ori axe + Medusa axe)
    Hammer grid (3 UE hammers + 2 Delphyne raid hammer)

    If whale = Yes

    Hammer grid (Samael/ Nephthys hammers + UE hammers)



    Well... this is off the top of my head, nothing exhaustive. But, general rules are: the more good FLBs in the element there are, the better that null grid will be.

    Also, if you somehow managed to get 6 of the same phantom weapon, would that mean you could theoretically run a mixed element team and have comparable damage or would the damage difference be noticeable?
    No. Skill 1s of phantom weapons do not stack.
    Last edited by Cobblemaniac; 02-19-2019 at 08:50 PM.

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