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  1. #161

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    I did some spreadsheet calculations comparing farmable SRs (from Disasters) and SSR event items and came to the following conclusions:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    1. SSR eidolon max stats exceed the Disaster eidolons (LV90) if you limit break at least once (to LV55). This is very achievable for anyone spamming Expert, even if you don't use stamina potions.
    2. SSR weapon stats scale very similarly to the Disaster weapons level-over-level. If you don't limit break at least twice (to LV100), the stats won't be significantly better than a maxed Disaster weapon (LV85). One copy of the SSR weapon is useful for the added Burst damage when equipped on your hero and fighting the opposite element; otherwise you'll probably want to use your limited resources on LB'ing the eidolon. If you plan to run a Dark team AND will have a hero that can equip the weapon, additional limit breaks on the weapon to buff the Burst damage even further could be useful; I don't have data on how the Burst damage on a partially limit breaked SSR compares to a fully limit breaked disaster weapon.

    In short, if you're running a team of the same element as the SSR weapon and will have a hero that can equip it, focus on getting multiple copies of that. Otherwise, focus on getting multiple copies of the SSR eidolon.

    Also, the stamina potions are self-refunding. Buy two of them every day and use them now or later to run events additional times.
    Last edited by sanahtlig; 02-23-2017 at 07:33 PM.


  2. #162
    thanks for confirming same lv delta gain. i think it still good idea to grab about 2 lb0 SSR weapon. raw stat might be similar, but each SSR has 3% bonus weaponskill extra. u can hit 16% weaponskill on SSR but only 13% on SR. it much slower to level SSR weaponskill, though.

    i not sure but i think for weapon in mh, the burst only increases at final break limit.



    the ★ in the burst ability message only appear after final break limit. i don't know if SSR is different.

    also to consider is ideal situation comparison of lv85 SR against lv100 or above SSR is fine, but it take a lot of resources to get there. short term, u need many improvements fast for doing future event and it relatively easier to level SSR weapon to 50 than SR to 85, especially multiple.
    Last edited by Ringabel; 02-23-2017 at 05:37 PM.

  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    I did some spreadsheet calculations comparing farmable SRs (from Disasters) and SSR event items and came to the following conclusions:

    1. SSR eidolon max stats exceed the Disaster eidolons (LV90) if you limit break at least once (to LV55). This is very achievable for anyone spamming Expert, even if you don't use stamina potions.
    2. SSR weapon stats scale very similarly to the Disaster weapons level-over-level. If you don't limit break at least twice (to LV100), the stats won't be significantly better than a maxed Disaster weapon (LV85). One copy of the SSR weapon is useful for the added Burst damage when equipped on your hero and fighting the opposite element; otherwise you'll probably want to use your limited resources on LB'ing the eidolon. If you plan to run a Dark team AND will have a hero that can equip the weapon, additional limit breaks on the weapon to buff the Burst damage even further could be useful; I don't have data on how the Burst damage on a partially limit breaked SSR compares to a fully limit breaked disaster weapon.

    In short, if you're running a team of the same element as the SSR weapon and will have a hero that can equip it, focus on getting multiple copies of that. Otherwise, focus on getting multiple copies of the SSR eidolon.

    Also, the stamina potions are self-refunding. Buy two of them every day and use them now or later to run events additional times.
    Disaster weapons? The ones in the shop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringabel View Post
    if every run is drop like this ...
    How about this ? [Advent Event] Eidolon from another world - Advent battle vs. Apocalypse-capture.png-123.jpg

  5. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    I did some spreadsheet calculations comparing farmable SRs (from Disasters) and SSR event items and came to the following conclusions:

    1. SSR eidolon max stats exceed the Disaster eidolons (LV90) if you limit break at least once (to LV55). This is very achievable for anyone spamming Expert, even if you don't use stamina potions.
    2. SSR weapon stats scale very similarly to the Disaster weapons level-over-level. If you don't limit break at least twice (to LV100), the stats won't be significantly better than a maxed Disaster weapon (LV85). One copy of the SSR weapon is useful for the added Burst damage when equipped on your hero and fighting the opposite element; otherwise you'll probably want to use your limited resources on LB'ing the eidolon. If you plan to run a Dark team AND will have a hero that can equip the weapon, additional limit breaks on the weapon to buff the Burst damage even further could be useful; I don't have data on how the Burst damage on a partially limit breaked SSR compares to a fully limit breaked disaster weapon.

    In short, if you're running a team of the same element as the SSR weapon and will have a hero that can equip it, focus on getting multiple copies of that. Otherwise, focus on getting multiple copies of the SSR eidolon.

    Also, the stamina potions are self-refunding. Buy two of them every day and use them now or later to run events additional times.
    Actually, I guess I'll have another followup.

    My heroes are currently Beelz, bryn. cybele, cronus (backups baal and mika). My main hero (working towards d'art) is using an SSR dark gun. My primary summon is Takemikazuchi (+30% thunder/wind/dark).

    Which do you think is the better option to go for? The weapon would add a lot of raw damage to d'art and beelz, but the summon I guess I could swap one of the winds with amon (free).

  6. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBobs View Post
    Disaster weapons? The ones in the shop?
    Those elemental raids drop disaster sr weps at a chance from gold n plat chests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBobs View Post
    Actually, I guess I'll have another followup.

    My heroes are currently Beelz, bryn. cybele, cronus (backups baal and mika). My main hero (working towards d'art) is using an SSR dark gun. My primary summon is Takemikazuchi (+30% thunder/wind/dark).

    Which do you think is the better option to go for? The weapon would add a lot of raw damage to d'art and beelz, but the summon I guess I could swap one of the winds with amon (free).
    Your team is likely to change over time depending on your luck with Gatcha, but looks to me like your team is primarily wind-focused at the moment, with a possible switch to Fire. An ideal elemental team will contain at least 2 SR or higher + your hero. Right now you're at a bit of an impasse, but I'd probably focus on Wind and farm the Disaster SR gun for your hero. But another Dark or Fire from Gatcha could that change that outlook completely...

  8. #168
    Oh yeah the eyes just seem to come once ina while, just as I thought I had enough stuff to get the eidolon I was missing the eyes lel

  9. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by eugene9707 View Post
    How about this ? [Advent Event] Eidolon from another world - Advent battle vs. Apocalypse-capture.png-123.jpg
    See, it's only day one, and over the week any of you guys could get drops like this. It's too soon to start complaining about how obtainable the goods are. This is why after getting the soul points and daily pots I'm just going to hold onto exchange items until the last day.

  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterE View Post
    See, it's only day one, and over the week any of you guys could get drops like this. It's too soon to start complaining about how obtainable the goods are. This is why after getting the soul points and daily pots I'm just going to hold onto exchange items until the last day.
    This is a very good idea.
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