Thread: Debuff overwriting confirmed to be bugged in English version

So... it will take 4-5 months before it gets fixed, when this gets to the version that fixed it, right? Because I doubt that they will fix this themselves.

Originally Posted by jazz154

So... it will take 4-5 months before it gets fixed, when this gets to the version that fixed it, right? Because I doubt that they will fix this themselves.

That seems probable. The bug was fixed prior to the English release, so if Nutaku were at all motivated to fix bugs in earlier versions of the game engine, they would've fixed it prior to release.

I don't think you can overwrite buffs at all, unless there is a different phase for HoTs and DoTs that is separate from the attack phase?

If I use Orlean Call (from Joan) and then I use Divine Solar Shield+ (from Amaterasu), my regeneration for that turn stays at 250 instead of increasing to 400.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I don't think you can overwrite buffs at all, unless there is a different phase for HoTs and DoTs that is separate from the attack phase?

If I use Orlean Call (from Joan) and then I use Divine Solar Shield+ (from Amaterasu), my regeneration for that turn stays at 250 instead of increasing to 400.

This thread is about debuff overwriting. As for overwriting buffs, regeneration is a weird case, I'm not really sure how that works. However you can overwrite some buffs. For example if you use fenrir active (that grants increased ability damage) and then oceanus ability damage increase spell, it will overwrite.

It looks like the debuff overwriting bug has been fixed. Sniper Shot now properly overwrites Outrage and persistently increases damage, and the second Outrage after Sniper Shot now misses as it should. It's unclear how this affects other anomalies such as Regen overwriting.

The most immediate effects of this are that Auto-skill with Mordred and Sniper Shot will work better, and Raids won't be permanently gimped by new players using weak debuffs early in the fight and blocking veterans from applying the stronger versions. That'll make Ragnarok Raids much easier.

I've updated the Buff and Debuff Stacking section of my guide accordingly.

A video of my 2nd test will be made available here shortly.

Was this fixed in today's maintenance? Since I'm pretty sure that a few days ago, whenever I used Sniper Shot after Outrage, I was still not doing the -40% Def amount of damage.

Still not fixed.

Actually I went and tested again just to confirm and something strange happened. The first attack after the good buffs did the damage I'd expect, but then the second was back down to Outrage levels of damage. It's a difference of ~8000 so it's not just variance, not sure what happened there.