Thread: Accessory Quests

Tried out Shingen in wind today and was impressed. I used Hercules' Raging Assault for burst rate up, along with the usual team of Amaterasu, Brynhildr, Motu, Dark Amon. My prime concern was being able to get past the first stage without injuries and stun the boss before she overdrived, both of which I did with Hercules Full Break in other attempts.

Shingen being able to burst early in the first stage completely made up for the loss of Full Break damage, and full burst stunned the boss without issue. She also cut off several turns in the second & third stages. Runs today with Apocalypse were faster than previous runs with Belial; I'm sold.

I'll likely be running Shingen once the ATK debuff cap hits. I can run the Water SR Kikurihime, who buffs team Burst gauge by +15, which will allow me to make maximum use of 'Provisional Forest' (wtf?) without sacrificing Sniper Shot.

However, I'm very wary of giving up Mordred's affliction resist down. That's really key for landing debuffs without elemental advantage, especially Sniper Shot on the opening trash before Sphinx is ready. Also, without Black Propaganda the window for landing a Full Burst during Rage phase without eating a Rage Overdrive will be very tight. With only -50% ATK down and no Black Propaganda, mistiming the Full Burst on the Rank 4 final boss will likely result in a wipe.

According to reports, debuff duration in Accessory Quests is now 180s, consistent with the rest of the game. Uriel also no longer causes game freezes.

Good news, guys. The debuff duration bug is fixed, now the debuffs last 3 mins as they should.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

I'll likely be running Shingen once the ATK debuff cap hits. I can run the Water SR Kikurihime, who buffs team Burst gauge by +15, which will allow me to make maximum use of 'Provisional Forest' (wtf?) without sacrificing Sniper Shot.

However, I'm very wary of giving up Mordred's affliction resist down. That's really key for landing debuffs without elemental advantage, especially Sniper Shot on the opening trash before Sphinx is ready. Also, without Black Propaganda the window for landing a Full Burst during Rage phase without eating a Rage Overdrive will be very tight. With only -50% ATK down and no Black Propaganda, mistiming the Full Burst on the Rank 4 final boss will likely result in a wipe.

Yep.. Sniper Shot without VoF can go wrong at mobs. I had a few times when only 2-3 debuffs were applies of the 6. Even only one once or twice, so I don't think sacrificing VoF is worth it, especially if you run Cthulhu as well(who also has aiming problems).

Originally Posted by nonsensei

Yep.. Sniper Shot without VoF can go wrong at mobs. I had a few times when only 2-3 debuffs were applies of the 6. Even only one once or twice, so I don't think sacrificing VoF is worth it, especially if you run Cthulhu as well(who also has aiming problems).

The problem is that at 7.5k a hit, the Rage Overdrive is almost guaranteed to kill someone, and possibly 2-3. Having sufficient damage to push the boss to stun (or very close) in 1 turn will be really important. I might need another Miracle ticket to pull this off reliably however, and maybe a +100% friend eidolon on top of that to insure against chance events.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

The problem is that at 7.5k a hit, the Rage Overdrive is almost guaranteed to kill someone, and possibly 2-3. Having sufficient damage to push the boss to stun (or very close) in 1 turn will be really important. I might need another Miracle ticket to pull this off reliably however, and maybe a +100% friend eidolon on top of that to insure against chance events.

If we are considering the atk down cap implemented case, Sol would probably be a bit useless with her C frame atk debuff, other than in the beginning with the mobs (since it's AoE). How about going for Nike Unleashed with Miracle ticket? She can take up the role of healer instead of Sol, cover your A frame def debuff & also has an atk/def buff for the team.

One possible setup I'm considering is Shingen (EX: Sniper Shot), Cthulhu, Poseidon, SSR Nike, and Kikurihime. But without Black Propaganda, timing the Full Burst would be dicey. Alternatively, I could run a standard team of Mordred (EX: Sniper Shot), Cthulhu, Poseidon, Shiva, and SSR Nike, which might be sufficient to push the boss close to Stun without Provisional Forest.

The other option is of course Snow Raphael, who can delay the boss's overdrive and mitigate it to 5k damage, which is more survivable. Her debuff is more likely to hit than Sniper Shot, but it's single-target so less useful on the initial trash. Subbing her for Poseidon in the initial team could allow Shingen to use Black Propaganda. But overall damage would suffer due to the lack of a class A DEF debuff.

Obviously combining SSR Nike and Snow Raphael would achieve the ideal result, but unless I get lucky that won't happen for a while.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

One possible setup I'm considering is Shingen (EX: Sniper Shot), Cthulhu, Poseidon, SSR Nike, and Kikurihime. But without Black Propaganda, timing the Full Burst would be dicey. Alternatively, I could run a standard team of Mordred (EX: Sniper Shot), Cthulhu, Poseidon, Shiva, and SSR Nike, which might be sufficient to push the boss close to Stun without Provisional Forest.

The other option is of course Snow Raphael, who can delay the boss's overdrive and mitigate it to 5k damage, which is more survivable. Her debuff is more likely to hit than Sniper Shot, but it's single-target so less useful on the initial trash. Subbing her for Poseidon in the initial team could allow Shingen to use Black Propaganda. But overall damage would suffer due to the lack of a class A DEF debuff.

Obviously combining SSR Nike and Snow Raphael would achieve the ideal result, but unless I get lucky that won't happen for a while.

How about using Belphegor if you're that wary of rage? Tbh, with Shingen, I'm pretty sure you could insta stun the boss even on elemental neutrality with that team setup. You could say that "what if I miss a def debuff?", but with debuffs lasting finally 3 mins, I think that shouldn't be much of a problem.. Belphegor could also cover for a missed sniper shot, even if only 12% instead of 20.