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    I probably should not get in on this but why not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    You still need debuffs for solo content?
    I, the person who asked for advice, do ye. Very much so, my account isn't nearly as strong as yours. As other players kindly pointed out I'm in the early game. Debuffs matter for me, that being said it doesn't help versus debuff resistant bosses; then brute force is the way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Next MT you can get the strongest fire Unit => Fire Freyr
    She has 30% fire RST down, she is faster than Uriel, can hit cap too and does way more spike dmg.
    This answers my question if Frey becomes available next MT, so thank you!

    Also glad to hear I don't have to pick up Uriel and can get Frey instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Obv Amaterasu looks really garbage in comparison
    You'd have 50 def down, but you'd have a slowpoke, and debuffs aren't even necessary, the 30 down is a bonus with Frey anyway
    considering that Frey is just a god tier unit in general.
    Three things:

    1. I believe that Amaterasu and Frey are incomparable to some extent. They serve different purposes and Amaterasu holds different utility alongside different stages of the game. She suffers from diminishing returns the further you advance in the game.
    2. I believe that for me Amaterasu holds more value than to you. Simply because we are in different stages of the game. I still value healing when my Kamihime have 6k HP on average. That being said, I understand that healing isn't always necessary. Here I like to draw on what dreamlitz said earlier and I agree with.
    3. I believe Amaterasu is a slowpoke late game and when debuffs don't matter as much. So, in your situation. I still rely on my precious debuffs D:

    Quote Originally Posted by dreamlitz View Post
    then you decide what you need most for a given encounter
    That it is nice to have the option to swap certain Kamihime out based on your needs. Amaterasu has healing, if I need healing I need Amaterasu (I have Sol so I can potentially use her, as using a MT to substitute might be a waste).

    Amaterasu is beginner friendly, Im a beginner. So she holds value, but her value diminishes as I progress and Amon retains her value. I understand that point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Therefore use your current MT for Svarog, Uriel or Fire Amon.
    U mentioned earlier that Uriel can be replaced by Frey, therefore this MT (for me specifically) Amon holds more value.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    This is a 25% damage increase, which means that the other four characters are basically covering up for Amaterasu's lack of offensive output already.
    The way I understand it is: ATK gets buffs from several INDIVIDUAL modifiers, Character ATK/Elemental ATK, debuffs increase all that damage by 25%. Therefore it holds value in non-debuff resistant/immune bosses. But I can also see their point, because THEY have insane DAMAGE. I DONT, therefore I value debuffs! And struggle against debuff resistant bosses because I lack damage. Both of you have points but in different scenario's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    (and I guess Fire Frey too, though I haven't looked her up)
    Her burst gauge is twice as big, 30% resistance down but consumes a flat 50 (I think, the wiki didnt mention a %) of burst gauge, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY: she is a transformer!!! She is the true Last Knight (movie reference)

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    However - that doesn't mean that you should underestimate just how damn good Amaterasu is. Yes, she NEEDS content where she can apply her debuffs to work. But in debuffable content, she continues to complete Fire. She is an option for all those who already have Uriel and Svarog, and damn it
    +1

    Heck no Im skipping the loli with the annoying voice and getting Frey/Vahagn next MT; but thats next MT!

    This MT is either Amaterasu or Amon for me at least. Im in the early game so I believe Amaterasu holds significant value, but if I need healing I can sub her for Sol potentially if I pick Amon. I don't know its hard to decide which is better. Mainly because Amon is wearing a maid outfit. I wanna waifu this MT really bad, plus a lot of people say she is valuable later on. But I need healing grrr.
    Last edited by Zendo; 06-18-2019 at 04:13 AM. Reason: Wanted to prevent a misunderstanding with regards to Frey her burst gauge consuimption!

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