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    You can find the estimated rates in the Gatcha tab of my Toolbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    I calculated the rates for SSR kamihime a while ago using a whole lot of data.
    And the result was 1.53%? I don't think you've made a post of it at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    And the result was 1.53%? I don't think you've made a post of it at least.
    It was, but the 50% category rate is sort of coincidental. It's different for SR and R kamihime. Perhaps of more interest is the tool's ability to calculate 95% confidence intervals and such--perfect to determine how much you can expect to spend on things like limited kamihime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    It was, but the 50% category rate is sort of coincidental. It's different for SR and R kamihime. Perhaps of more interest is the tool's ability to calculate 95% confidence intervals and such--perfect to determine how much you can expect to spend on things like limited kamihime.
    That is assuming that we know what the modifier is in Nutaku. When I was whaling for Karin, I didn't get the Koihime SR until at very end of the ~980 bucks spent. If 15x modifier is a thing, then that was insanely unlucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    That is assuming that we know what the modifier is in Nutaku. When I was whaling for Karin, I didn't get the Koihime SR until at very end of the ~980 bucks spent. If 15x modifier is a thing, then that was insanely unlucky.
    Was that before or after the change from 5x rate to 15x rate up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    That is assuming that we know what the modifier is in Nutaku. When I was whaling for Karin, I didn't get the Koihime SR until at very end of the ~980 bucks spent. If 15x modifier is a thing, then that was insanely unlucky.
    that's the thing, luck is still a major factor.... i learned that the hard way dealing with pero pero seduction given it's system to even get all the boosters for the EG events

    it's still more an estimate to how often you should pull an SSR or SR kami... which honestly added up to my educated guess just going by gacha contents and SSR rate (cause i did a rough guess with simple math and didn't break it down like Sanahtlig did...).

    if i remember all the times i spent on this game and all the magic jewels i burned out, i'm at more or less a 3-6% rate of SSR kami weapon pulls. i spent somewhere around 21k magic jewels and about 1800 bucks total outside of the SSR guaranteed attempts... i may have about 7 kami i got by sheer luck and not anything forcing SSR, but I am sitting on a lot of dupe weapons... I kinda wish i recorded EVERY gacha attempt, but i got most of them down thanks to youtube... and i have played this game since it's nutaku launch (even net a copy of echidna during the pre-launch thing), so that's a long line of pulls to remember so i'm likely off...

    in fact, gaia and Cu chulainn's weapons alone are at lv100... and I think I got Thor and Svarog to at least lv75 each
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    I kinda wish i recorded EVERY gacha attempt, but i got most of them down thanks to youtube...
    If you haven't used any SSR weapons or eidolons for enhancement, you can count these up and use them to estimate rates. That's how I did it (with a whole lot more data).
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    and here i was pissed i wasted 200 bucks on aigis when i closed down.

    That being said , a long time ago (probably more then a year) i opened a thread on gold gacha draws , just to find out the exact rates. In aigis you could draw gacha with gold (the equivalent of gems in kamihime) since in aigis you;d have a chance to draw plats/SR and blacks/SSR from gold gacha. I personally got a plat once , and a number of golds.


    Anyway , i gave up after a while , because i didn;t had time to add literally every gacha roll of everyone who posted and calculate %.

    Still , that might not be a bad ideea , assuming anyone is willing. Also , i'm pretty sure that the guaranteed SR is going to fuck up with percents. I don't even know if it's always a SR or a SR and higher guaranteed in the first place
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    If you haven't used any SSR weapons or eidolons for enhancement, you can count these up and use them to estimate rates. That's how I did it (with a whole lot more data).
    it's gonna take me a while given that there's a ton of event stuff mixed in.... even a few non-kami weapons i got when they were part of the premium gachas

    plus, i never seen a point to using the highest rarity in a game as enhancement fodder so i tend to keep them all, even if they're just sitting there. (Only exception to this was a DMM game called ReBless with the silver/gold medal trade system)


    Quote Originally Posted by lolix View Post
    and here i was pissed i wasted 200 bucks on aigis when i closed down.

    That being said , a long time ago (probably more then a year) i opened a thread on gold gacha draws , just to find out the exact rates. In aigis you could draw gacha with gold (the equivalent of gems in kamihime) since in aigis you;d have a chance to draw plats/SR and blacks/SSR from gold gacha. I personally got a plat once , and a number of golds.


    Anyway , i gave up after a while , because i didn;t had time to add literally every gacha roll of everyone who posted and calculate %.

    Still , that might not be a bad ideea , assuming anyone is willing. Also , i'm pretty sure that the guaranteed SR is going to fuck up with percents. I don't even know if it's always a SR or a SR and higher guaranteed in the first place
    well, they do post the overall rates on the gacha page exactly.... breaking it down between weapons and eidolons is where it gets complicated...

    and yeah, SR guaranteed can screw with the rates anyway. besides, you're forced to get one every 10-draw so only 9 draws really factor into the original rates
    Last edited by MagicSpice; 03-02-2018 at 08:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    Was that before or after the change from 5x rate to 15x rate up?
    Karin was Koihime, so 15x modifier had happened on DMM two events before. As far as I know.

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