Thread: SR KH Gacha or SSR Gacha?

Originally Posted by Slashley

And the result was 1.53%? I don't think you've made a post of it at least.

It was, but the 50% category rate is sort of coincidental. It's different for SR and R kamihime. Perhaps of more interest is the tool's ability to calculate 95% confidence intervals and such--perfect to determine how much you can expect to spend on things like limited kamihime.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

It was, but the 50% category rate is sort of coincidental. It's different for SR and R kamihime. Perhaps of more interest is the tool's ability to calculate 95% confidence intervals and such--perfect to determine how much you can expect to spend on things like limited kamihime.

That is assuming that we know what the modifier is in Nutaku. When I was whaling for Karin, I didn't get the Koihime SR until at very end of the ~980 bucks spent. If 15x modifier is a thing, then that was insanely unlucky.

Originally Posted by Slashley

That is assuming that we know what the modifier is in Nutaku. When I was whaling for Karin, I didn't get the Koihime SR until at very end of the ~980 bucks spent. If 15x modifier is a thing, then that was insanely unlucky.

Was that before or after the change from 5x rate to 15x rate up?

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Was that before or after the change from 5x rate to 15x rate up?

Karin was Koihime, so 15x modifier had happened on DMM two events before. As far as I know.

Originally Posted by Slashley

That is assuming that we know what the modifier is in Nutaku. When I was whaling for Karin, I didn't get the Koihime SR until at very end of the ~980 bucks spent. If 15x modifier is a thing, then that was insanely unlucky.

that's the thing, luck is still a major factor.... i learned that the hard way dealing with pero pero seduction given it's system to even get all the boosters for the EG events

it's still more an estimate to how often you should pull an SSR or SR kami... which honestly added up to my educated guess just going by gacha contents and SSR rate (cause i did a rough guess with simple math and didn't break it down like Sanahtlig did...).

if i remember all the times i spent on this game and all the magic jewels i burned out, i'm at more or less a 3-6% rate of SSR kami weapon pulls. i spent somewhere around 21k magic jewels and about 1800 bucks total outside of the SSR guaranteed attempts... i may have about 7 kami i got by sheer luck and not anything forcing SSR, but I am sitting on a lot of dupe weapons... I kinda wish i recorded EVERY gacha attempt, but i got most of them down thanks to youtube... and i have played this game since it's nutaku launch (even net a copy of echidna during the pre-launch thing), so that's a long line of pulls to remember so i'm likely off...

in fact, gaia and Cu chulainn's weapons alone are at lv100... and I think I got Thor and Svarog to at least lv75 each

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

I kinda wish i recorded EVERY gacha attempt, but i got most of them down thanks to youtube...

If you haven't used any SSR weapons or eidolons for enhancement, you can count these up and use them to estimate rates. That's how I did it (with a whole lot more data).

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

If you haven't used any SSR weapons or eidolons for enhancement, you can count these up and use them to estimate rates. That's how I did it (with a whole lot more data).

it's gonna take me a while given that there's a ton of event stuff mixed in.... even a few non-kami weapons i got when they were part of the premium gachas

plus, i never seen a point to using the highest rarity in a game as enhancement fodder so i tend to keep them all, even if they're just sitting there. (Only exception to this was a DMM game called ReBless with the silver/gold medal trade system)

Originally Posted by lolix

and here i was pissed i wasted 200 bucks on aigis when i closed down.

That being said , a long time ago (probably more then a year) i opened a thread on gold gacha draws , just to find out the exact rates. In aigis you could draw gacha with gold (the equivalent of gems in kamihime) since in aigis you;d have a chance to draw plats/SR and blacks/SSR from gold gacha. I personally got a plat once , and a number of golds.


Anyway , i gave up after a while , because i didn;t had time to add literally every gacha roll of everyone who posted and calculate %.

Still , that might not be a bad ideea , assuming anyone is willing. Also , i'm pretty sure that the guaranteed SR is going to fuck up with percents. I don't even know if it's always a SR or a SR and higher guaranteed in the first place

well, they do post the overall rates on the gacha page exactly.... breaking it down between weapons and eidolons is where it gets complicated...

and yeah, SR guaranteed can screw with the rates anyway. besides, you're forced to get one every 10-draw so only 9 draws really factor into the original rates

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

SR guaranteed can screw with the rates anyway. besides, you're forced to get one every 10-draw so only 9 draws really factor into the original rates

I don't believe it's "SR guaranteed". It's "SR or better guaranteed". I did factor this into my calculations.

So after digging through my inventory, i got the following SSR all from pulls (regardless of method):

-21 Kami Weapons
-3 Non-Kami Weapons
-23 Eidolons

so if all of those was factored into 3k jewels and 3k NG per attempt, then i'd have done 67 10-draws (670 pulls) to net roughly 47 SSR items... just off that estimate alone, that sounds about in the ballpark of my last guess (my luck being in the 3-6% range of pulling ANY SSR)...

so yeah, i can be considered one of the luckier players... even though this is still rough estimates...

add in the tickets and such i used and this likely would be about 770-800 gacha attempts so far

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

I don't believe it's "SR guaranteed". It's "SR or better guaranteed". I did factor this into my calculations.

yeah, that's the technical term for it. i'm used to calling it "guaranteed" instead of "or better guaranteed" due to other games putting it that way (like Final Fantasy Brave Exvius saying 4 star guaranteed, even though it can still give 5 star units at a confirmed 5% rate)

and here i was pissed i wasted 200 bucks on aigis when i closed down.

That being said , a long time ago (probably more then a year) i opened a thread on gold gacha draws , just to find out the exact rates. In aigis you could draw gacha with gold (the equivalent of gems in kamihime) since in aigis you;d have a chance to draw plats/SR and blacks/SSR from gold gacha. I personally got a plat once , and a number of golds.


Anyway , i gave up after a while , because i didn;t had time to add literally every gacha roll of everyone who posted and calculate %.

Still , that might not be a bad ideea , assuming anyone is willing. Also , i'm pretty sure that the guaranteed SR is going to fuck up with percents. I don't even know if it's always a SR or a SR and higher guaranteed in the first place