Thread: Updated Kamihime Project Rerolling Guide for New and Intermediate Players

For a player re-rolling for an account based on this guide to build a team around complete with multiple Miracle Ticket picks I think it's reasonable to assume that they don't intend to dump this game 11 months from now.

I mean, how long have you been playing?

It's a long term investment and Hanuman a month from now is a significantly better one than any that can be re-rolled for now.

Originally Posted by Pigeon

For a player re-rolling for an account based on this guide to build a team around complete with multiple Miracle Ticket picks I think it's reasonable to assume that they don't intend to dump this game 11 months from now.

I mean, how long have you been playing?

It's a long term investment and Hanuman a month from now is a significantly better one than any that can be re-rolled for now.

Hanuman will be buffed in a year from now. So hanuman still 120% eidolon but if you dont have any sub wind eidolon its equal to only 100% same as hraes.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hanuman will be buffed in a year from now. So hanuman still 120% eidolon but if you dont have any sub wind eidolon its equal to only 100% same as hraes.

What's more important to you, this calendar year or the rest of time after this calendar year?

In either timeframe, Hanuman will be better than Hraesvelgr. In the much longer timeframe, Hanuman will be much better. The same applies to the other 2019 Gacha Eidolons as they come out, relative to their earlier counterparts.

You can live in the far future as much as you want, but you're still selling a 100% Eidolon against a 100% Eidolon. Yes, Hanuman is slightly better... if you can fulfill the requirement of Wind Eidolon Grid without sacrificing base Atk. Hint, you can't.

In a year, Hanuman is somewhat better. 120% Hanuman against 100% Hraes is certainly a damage increase, but again, going to 140% will require a Wind Eidolon Grid. Even if you do go 140% Hanuman, hell, even if you go DOUBLE 140% Hanuman, the damage increase when compared to double 100% Hraes is barely enough to cover the 16% extra damage you get from Hraes being able to get your Def debuffs from 40% to 50%. Of course, this doesn't apply to debuff immune content.

Again, you're seriously overselling Hanuman.

Originally Posted by Slashley

You can live in the far future as much as you want, but you're still selling a 100% Eidolon against a 100% Eidolon. Yes, Hanuman is slightly better... if you can fulfill the requirement of Wind Eidolon Grid without sacrificing base Atk. Hint, you can't.

In a year, Hanuman is somewhat better. 120% Hanuman against 100% Hraes is certainly a damage increase, but again, going to 140% will require a Wind Eidolon Grid. Even if you do go 140% Hanuman, hell, even if you go DOUBLE 140% Hanuman, the damage increase when compared to double 100% Hraes is barely enough to cover the 16% extra damage you get from Hraes being able to get your Def debuffs from 40% to 50%. Of course, this doesn't apply to debuff immune content.

Again, you're seriously overselling Hanuman.

I disagree about going one element eidolon grid is worse. Going one element grid has benefit using the likes of hanuman, managram, anubis etc. Going one element eidos grid will benefit you with extra 10% eidos stats increase. So 2400 attack and 800hp if same element its automatically will become 2640 and 880hp. That doesn't cover 20% more passive from opponent eidolon. If you have hanuman the extra benefit would be at least 40% more extra elemental buff from eidolon. 40% elemental attack is big and 10% extra stats mostly have covered the status decrease from using weaker status eidolon but many wind eidolon has strong stats too so it isn't a problem.

Going one element grid has benefit using the likes of hanuman, managram, anubis etc even just as friend support'.
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Each same element eidolon with hime will give you 4% elemental attack if using hanuman and co as support. 4% elemental attack is big we compared strongest event eidos so far against strongest wind eidos so far which is obtainable through shop.
Example tiamat versus icarus. Tiamat attack 2262 vs icarus 2094. But icarus is wind if using wind hime icarus become 2303. So its become 2262 vs 2303 conclusion icarus attack is better than tiamat if using in wind team. We compare tiamat hp vs icarus hp. Tiamat hp 516 vs icarus hp 516. But icarus is wind so its become 568. In this case also icarus stats still better than tiamat the strongest event eidos in terms of status.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I disagree about going one element eidolon grid is worse. Going one element grid has benefit using the likes of hanuman, managram, anubis etc. Going one element eidos grid will benefit you with extra 10% eidos stats increase. So 2400 attack and 800hp if same element its automatically will become 2640 and 880hp.--

Yes, but what event Eidolons have 2400 Attack?

Let's see, it's:
None.

... well, shit. But if we're talking with +99s:
Sphinx (Light, 2118)
Tiamat (Water, 2262)
Fleurety (Wind, 2130, coming up in March)
Honerable mentions to Mii (Thunder) and Ikaros (Wind) who are just barely under 2400 at +99. Also, this list is only up until August.

See the little problem here? Chances are high that your Wind Eidolons will be closer to 1500-1800 base Atk, which can be increased to about 1800-2100.

Originally Posted by Slashley

See the little problem here? Chances are high that your Wind Eidolons will be closer to 1500-1800 base Atk, which can be increased to about 1800-2100.

Let's see, what wind eidos will come out from now on:
Lilim: 396/1596
Fleurety: 600/2130
Garuda: 558/1710
Hodur: 624/2010
Stolas: 678/1860

That's like... two eidolons below 1800 base ATK. Providing one will buy one copy of Kaiser, then lose in base ATK overall will be small.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Yes, but what event Eidolons have 2400 Attack?

Let's see, it's:
None.

... well, shit. But if we're talking with +99s:
Sphinx (Light, 2118)
Tiamat (Water, 2262)
Fleurety (Wind, 2130, coming up in March)
Honerable mentions to Mii (Thunder) and Ikaros (Wind) who are just barely under 2400 at +99. Also, this list is only up until August.

See the little problem here? Chances are high that your Wind Eidolons will be closer to 1500-1800 base Atk, which can be increased to about 1800-2100.

You forget to add 10% increase in icarus
Icarus is higher than tiamat if used in wind both hp and attack. Icarus attack 2304 without 99
Compared to tiamat 2262 its higher
Fleurelty 2130 will become 2343 if used in wind itshigher than tiamat too. So all wind you mentioned is higher than the best event eidolon currently.

And assuming we only use hanuman as friend support. How are you so certain 4% elemental attack is not more than enough to overlap the status decrease. you

Originally Posted by Pigeon

What's more important to you, this calendar year or the rest of time after this calendar year?

In either timeframe, Hanuman will be better than Hraesvelgr. In the much longer timeframe, Hanuman will be much better. The same applies to the other 2019 Gacha Eidolons as they come out, relative to their earlier counterparts.

Indeed but rerolling isn't easy too by the time hanuman comes he has missed wind union event also it takes maybe a month from now so don't really sure he want to wait that long. As rare as hanuman, flb weapon also very rare and furthermore wind weapon also give best flb because give you 2 exceed weapons on top of assault large or pride. To get flb is very rare too and he will get several sr assault to help him boost his grid much faster too. He can wait but but is it really worth to wait and reroll again for spesific eidolon. He mostly dont get the 100% eidolon when reroll there is no guarantee even with rate up. In one year of time nothing can be predicted is it close down or have no motivation anymore to play. If he wait hanuman he will lose 2 flb exceed weapons and must do crazy reroll again and collect more weapons. If he use current hraes he can play now, get 2 flb weapons and get many sr to fill its grid faster and hraes active also strong. Its not bad trade off.