Thread: Olympian weapons vs demon UE FLB

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

I only remember doing this with Abou, who had special atk that scaled like pride. I forgot the exact details, but I did find a build where Abou + some amount of vigor (I think it's just 1 SR replacing 1 SR disaster hammer) suffers at most a few % loss in dmg relative to St. Nick or Barong, but retains a lot of the upside at low HP.

I apologize; I must have posted it in discord in discussions with div about potential capabilities. I'll repost (slightly hijack) in your thread here so that it's located at the point of question.

The graph is for assault (y-axis) over hitpoints (x-axis). The range of hit points is 100 to 0 and the range of assault is 5.4 to 3. The red line is a full FLB assault grid. I phantom weapon and 9 assault Large (21%) weapons. The green line is a shamash phantom weapon grid. Shamash adds pride on FLB to assault medium (5 weapons to make the phantom grid work). The blue line is the vishnu wheel grid (5 weapons plus a phantom glaive). It shows the potential for a vigor grid. The black line is a combo grid where you now use 3 shamash books and 2 vishnu glaives to balance out the loss/gain from both over the range of hitpoints. You're gains are 'smoothed' out over the range of hitpoints and show the potential for a mixed weapon set grid. It emphasizes the ability of pairing vigor/pride to keep your assault gain above just the best single assault grid. The second set of graphs show a set of pride and/or vigor weapons replacing an assault weapon of similar caliber. This is harder to work with (and that'll show in the graph) and that there is now no obvious 'winner' as they are straight trade off weapons, but combining pride and vigor together mitigates either skills disadvantages. This allows someone to populate weapons with pride and vigor into their grid as substitutes for a pure assault grid as temporary replacements for the triple weapon skills that are available later on.

The triple skill weapons from the Guardian raids will not be good as the vishnu/glaive combos (Hime weapons) as they lack FLB, but they won't be as bad as the second set where you're replacing assault with either vigor or pride. They'll definitely be better, but it won't be the same level of overpower as vishnu glaives/shamash books or mammon guns (etc.) that Hime weapons can achieve.

Enjoy!!


Dejnov.