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    So, now that a loooooooooot of time has passed (what, nine months?) my Phul Gun and Ophiel Lance grids are shaping up. And I have to admit... damn that is some impressive stuff.

    It is fully possible to do great damage even when debuffs don't land. And when debuffs DO land... you're hitting damage caps. Which is fun to watch. While it does requires VERY specific stuff, such as multiple healers preferably and certain type of content... well, luckily, the most grindy content in the game just happens to fit into that certain type of content. That is to say, the raids.

    Such a shame that they don't offer the same options to the rest of the elements, really. I don't understand why didn't they make same skillset weapons for all elements. But oh well. I guess Vigor grids are a privilege of exactly two elements (assuming you drew a healer or two for that element), except for omegawhales who can use Hime weapon Grids.

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    Ophiel Lance and Phul Gun are some of the best choices for a fairly free to play grid. I also believe that Wind with the Bethor Bows and Glaives and Dark with their Gun are also great choices (second tier due to pride based and not vigor based). Only Light and Fire didn't get great standout weapons from the release of Guardians (they're choices aren't bad, but more meh).

    From a weapon skill optimal choice structure for the eight weapons you can slot into your grid (excluding Soul weapon and phantom weapon) is 8 assault skills, 3 exceed skills, 4 ascension skills, 4 vigor skills and 4 defender skills (due to no exceed, vigor, assault weapon choices).

    That gets you nearly max exceed overcap, nearly max ascension overcap and 32-40% vigor (depending on weapon choice), while maintaining full assault and getting some minor defender. Hitpoints should mostly come from the Eidolon grid/Accessories near end game; some effort from weapons is always appreciated though.

    From the above list, only water and thunder have a chance of doing that skill selection for free (due to the ophiel lance and phul gun alone); while, I believe, only Light can do it from a full phantom weapon selection option (with Light using Poseidon and Tishtrya lances) mostly due to the Tish lance.


    Dejnov.

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    For F2P grids that just started on August (Mean Missing every event weapon), Is light Staff worth getting for?
    and if you already traded for Ophiel Lance monthly, would it be good to also trade for Ophiel Axe? Both looks good

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlterX View Post
    For F2P grids that just started on August (Mean Missing every event weapon), Is light Staff worth getting for?
    and if you already traded for Ophiel Lance monthly, would it be good to also trade for Ophiel Axe? Both looks good

    Ophiel Lance is much better than the Ophiel Axe as the Phantom Lance is a better grid to build. Axe's aren't bad, just not as good as the lance.


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    The problem with the Lance is that it has no HP. This makes you extremely squishy. So running 5x Lance + Phantom Lance + 3x Axe would not be a bad thing...
    ... if you could somehow fit and Exceed or two in there. But Water has always had Exceed trouble, even more now that Sloth isn't available.

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    Right, maybe 1 or 2 Axe wouldn't hurt then.

    Light guardian weapons is kinda on the so-so side, but Since I am chasing all 6 elements, Shold I trade for light staff? Already traded 2x Glaives.

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    Vigor without Assault is not particularly good.

    Mind you that Kamihime is a marathon game. You will not get an amazing Grid in a small amount of time no matter how hard you try. If you burn yourself out at an early stage, you'll never strong.

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    Yes, certainly you re right, Everything is kinda directly or indirectly time-gated, Starting from Shop reset monthly and resources from event.
    Getting shingen would take like 2-3 months fastest unless there Special soul package that can be bought ,which i have not see.

    I just want to min maxing the progress so I could built a better grid in short-term. I am building all 6 elements but only trade 2 guardian weapons each type (cost 20 and 30, 50 is a bit much)

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