Thread: plat units = to blacks

i agree on your last point , but u made it sound like nadia doesn't require support. She requires support just as much as a gelius. It's a team , and no unit can do everything , so yes they will need help. Nadia will require UP bateries , while gelius will require dps assistance. Actually she might even need a blocker behind her to make use of her dps.


Exk , as i said each unit can be made to look good in the right situation. Nadia is an anti swarm. Gelius is a heavy tank.Let's make a vdieo of nadia doing the golem map and compare how well she does with gelius , and see which 1 requires more help then the other

With the kind of dps she pulls out i'd argue most things in existence will be deathinated before they manage to run past her. Don't forget she has a much faster attack speed than mages while dealing a lot more damage per hit as well.

That said, Gellius will need an UP battery too, most units tend to do, it IS the first thing you place after all. But depending on the map you will either need to place a lot of units fast or have a decent amount of time before the next big wave comes in. That is basically the difference between deploying Nadia and something else.

Nobody has argued anything against Gellius being an anti-golem tank.

But I shouldn't need to explain how saying "Gellius + Solano is better than Nadia, therefore Gellius is better than Nadia" is an incredibly flimsy argument. You might as well say "Leanne + Nanaly is better than both, therefore Leanne is better than both".

Something like this?

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28457441

the point wasn't that gelius +solano is better.The point was that with the cost of deploying a nadia i could deploy gelis with a solano....or a nanaly or even an aisha for gods sake. Why don't people look at a unit's cost as another stat ?

Originally Posted by lolix

the point wasn't that gelius + leanne is better.The point was that with the cost of deploying a nadia i could deploy gelis with a solano....or a nanaly or even an aisha for gods sake. Why don't people look at a unit's cost as another stat ?

Its the anon that told you my black team cost me alot of maps.



Can you help me? I can put them all down in first half of the map but then I still cant beat this map help.

so...i don't see the map , your units or the enemy stats ....and what exactly is your issue on said map ? You get swarmed ? Can't tank enemies ? Can't dps ? What exactly is the issue ?

I know sarcasm doesn't translate well over the net, but he's obviously being about as sarcastic as one can be, lolix...

oh i got it. It's just that i don't understand what he's trying to prove. We were comparing 2 plat units , and he's butting in for.....what exactly ? Also what does said map has to do with our conversation ?

Originally Posted by lolix

the point wasn't that gelius +solano is better.The point was that with the cost of deploying a nadia i could deploy gelis with a solano....or a nanaly or even an aisha for gods sake. Why don't people look at a unit's cost as another stat ?

Because Solano has setup and downtime, Nanaly has downtime, and using Aisha in any argument is the worst reasoning ever. But for the sake of logic, we'll stick with Solano.

If you set Solano down first, you still have no blocker until you have enough for Gellius. 15 + 26 is 41. 1 point later than just putting Nadia down.

If you set down Gellius first, you have to wait ten more seconds for Solano to actually be ready to attack. 26 + 15 + 10 is 51. So that's 11 extra seconds of waiting for the DPS to start coming in, which probably won't mean much for Gellius, but then you probably need a healer sooner or later, so that's another 15+ seconds on top of that, then an archer or something else to pick up the slack for when Solano's skill ends. Instead of, again, just putting down Nadia.