@lolix:

more than one person here has experience with both of these units, maxed out and SAW'd. your staunch refusal to accept their opinion despite having no experience with Nadia herself, combined with your poor reasoning skills and seeming inability to rationalize logical arguments, this leads me to believe you're just arbitrarily saying stuff because you really, really want to be right.

i have used sybilla, olivia, clissa, lyla, erenia, thetis, rakshasa, alice, cornelia, aw prince, etc. on mine and others accounts, many of them at max level or high level AW and with AW skill. even having had experience with all these powerful duelists and fighters, i can definitively say that nadia offers something quite distinct from all of them - something that NONE of them can replicate. and that something is hardly niche; permanent AoE with a considerable ATK/DEF modifier is amazing, as much as you seem to want to deny it.

re: true damage - it's pretty obvious you don't know what you're on about. here's a list of the 'true damage duelists'i that take up a melee slot, and if i forgot someone it's probably not worth mentioning.

claudia - okay damage, cannot handle swarms, cannot tank well.
clissa - good damage, proc chance based. cannot handle swarms. cannot tank near nadia's level.
rakshasa, black majin - reusable token does lots of true damage on low cd, but cannot be healed. cannot handle swarms.
nezha, black hermit - has the stats, but skill(and true damage) only lasts 15s, and has long cd. mediocre with swarms. only blocks while skill is up, otherwise block 0.
hina - low proc chance, mediocre with swarms, low defensive stats, low damage
some swordmasters - one shot skill for high true damage. good against swarms, but not constant ones. can be difficult or impossible to use depending on layout. lacks defensive stats.
sabine - good damage, mediocre with swarms, low defenses.

so yes, pointless comparison since nothing compares. at all. also, nadia damages pretty much everything in the game except an enemy type that NEVER swarms(high-tier golems), i'd say she's pretty solid for low, mid and even high grade swarming.

as for assassination procs, i assume you're talking about berna? she is good anti-swarm, yes, but it is also on a CD and berna herself is a pretty shoddy tank. also, a black. and assassination is worthless when the enemy has .0000001% chance of getting affected(like golems) if you were worried about these mythical golem swarms i talked about before.



re: gellius versus other heavies. the irony is, gellius is actually pretty niche compared to the likes of dina, who nutaku does not yet have. her SAW is pretty epic and her body is big enough to tank pretty much whatever - if the enemies don't die first. yes, this is not what people ask for in an HA, and people complain about the male gold a lot, but i'd honestly use dina over gellius 90% of the time. the other 10% of the time being enemies with over 5kish in damage(6kish in my case; I have lots of passives and b. iris).

re: black iris - she has a very high basic level of healing but will actually heal less than most other healers in the end, even with AWS. her real power, and why she's so broken, is her massive defense buff. against magic you'd be better off with camilla or saria. in fact, saria was the most used unit in the furfur event(demon god tier, ultra difficult). pretty op.