Thread: The Princess, The Bandits, and The Capital of Evil Spirits Guide

Originally Posted by Eab1990

Spica does not replace Saki either. If you need that ranged spot for a healer/mage/whatever else, Spica obviously isn't going to help. Yes, Spica is better in most situations, but that wasn't the point of this argument. Once again, if you have other major priorities, no one is saying Saki should be picked above them. We're arguing against your idea that Saki shouldn't be picked up at all unless you're drowning in DCs. If, say, my only options for AW were extremely low-priority units like Cuterie, Mehlis, or Stray, I would pick Saki over them.



Uh what. Sailors don't replace ninjas either. They don't have the same DPS and they have a cooldown timer, and are essentially worthless pre-AW anyway. At least use Rika instead or something.

clearly you don't read. or have a completely different opinion against this yet can't refute this. so be it.

unlike us , which we didn't...and somehow still managed to survive without saki

OF COURSE WE DID. all we had to do was just 2* skip that damn map if we couldn't anyway, or get a weaker solano back then. I mean, we don't DIE because we don't have a ranged melee. hell, you don't die even if you started playing from day 1 and you couldn't 3* this G-tier map. actually, can anyone even die in this game? I mean, life = 0 and yet life carries on, grind harder.

Stop telling newbies to get her. She's not worth the investment

Read the part I quoted from Eab's post.

i'd rather improve my core team sora , while ignoring saki. That should be even more valid for newbie players

that's your choice and that's because you have actual ranged melees to work around, as well as some OP premium units that not everyone has to help them clear maps which would otherwise become more manageable with a ranged melee. GGWP whenever we start getting maps with little ranged spots and then you realize ranged melees get more important (the same way priest warriors get important), and then you don't have to care because you have your pitiful ninja azami which somehow still works while newbies who listened to you suffer because they have no permanent ranged melees to work around maps.

great advice.

actually i have no ninja. Have just 1 coppy of azami on both accounts lol. Did dailies during her event. And you're still missing the point. My first acount doesn't have op ranged dps. Actually my best units are probably spica , bashira , tethis , celia and camila. That's all i have that are somewhat good. And tethis i even aquired her a month ago. I've did managed to get a perfect solano even tho i didn't 3stared the evnet (the last map required a multiple blacks and karma to do ffs) , and i've literally 3 starred every event sincer hers with the exception of a G map that had 3 gold werewolfs , and can't remember what god damn event that was... And that wasn't becasue of saki. It was because i simply could not block it with any duelist , and even the guide videos used karma for them.



Other then that , i've managed to 3 star everything , without using saki , before and after getting horace or charllote (which is sitll not cc-ed for that matter). Horace was actually cc-ed a long time after her event as well since i didn't really needed a ranged melee that much in the first place on that account. Funny because i did cc-ed both charlotte and horace on the nanaly account , mosttly because i lacked good duelists , and i used them as pseudo princesses more then ranged melee.



And that's the great story of saki , that stays unused while being maxed and black. I guess she had her usage tho : managed to clear my black fairies from inventory since i was running out of space.


EDIT 2 for clarity : i'm not saying that saki doesn't have her usese , but the instances you would really really require a ninja are really not that many as you guys make it out to be. She is in no way a priority to aquire. Other then that , i am done. Don't see the point of this stupid argument when literally all parts involved here agree that she's not a priority. Whatever she's worth the cost of dc's is debatable because aquiring saki requires a couple of IFs before : first you have to wonder , have you gotten spica ? Have you awakened her yet ? If not >> she takes priority over saki. Second , is your core team strong enough to deal with new content , or there are any instances where you can't advance your story/daily/challenge ? Then your core team takes priority. You have the amount of dcs for her without gimping or stalling the awakening of priority units ? Are the instances were you need a ranged on melee slot that often that you have to invest all your dcs in her ?


That's the point with saki. SHe's conditioned by a lot of crap , that paying players or the ones that played before the big break don't understand because they had a crapload of dcs coming into awakening and most likely had a saki before we even got AW. It's not that easy for free players and especially newbies to get them.

That being said , i won't deny that saki has very good stats once deployed , and has some usses. I guess each person have to weight the pros and the cons for their own accounts. And that's how i feel we should end this , because we're going to pointlessly argue about semantics of a word otherwise

We're arguing against your use of the word "useless" because your entire argument has been contingent on some weird mistaken notion that everyone has access to some better free replacement for Saki. That is not the case. Viera does not replace Saki. Ricardo sure as hell does not replace Saki. Actual ranged units are not always an option. Even if you had Azami, Saki is flat out better.

Don't try to shift the blame of your poor choice of words when your whole argument is shit.

Side note, there is something ridiculously amusing about how you failed to 3* one of the easiest G maps.

my poor choice of words is something that i admited and corected later on , even tho you guys still insist on making a whole argument based on that. (even tho if you go look at the reply on page 11 , i didn't even said that word. You just assumed that i did , because i said that the people who "consider saki useless and unworthy" are right. I actually meant to say that shes not worth the cost , but whatever...that's how it came out. I admited it was a poor choice of words in the end). In the same reply i even said that saki has her uses. Therefore how could you say that i said she;s useless , whne my reply pointed out that she's not ?



Just how petty are you ? for real.

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Originally Posted by lolix

and said people are right. You realize that he invested 300 dcs just to get her , raised her up (used 3 silvers to cc her + a crapload of experience to max a black unit) , and after that he awakened her (so...what , 100 more dcs , 6 more silvers + orbs + gold) + even more experience, when he could have simply used an archer that doesn't need too tank them either.


For example i had great results using bashira (non awakened) during her skill usage. Actually every archer that can shot multiple arrows (or even a vh) can do it without it having to be awaken.....and they cost less to deploy either.



Now don't get me wrong. Saki has her uses , but this event is hardly one of them. She is usefull for some maps , but for everything that has ranged slots avaible , she's not that great. She's really good when you really really need a ranged on a meele slot

Do read what i said pls

The only petty one is the one who thinks their argument is still right after saying their choice of words was wrong, yet still continues to say the same damn wrong things.

Seriously, I'm not the only one who sees a blatant contradiction when you say "useless was an exaggeration" and "people who say Saki is useless are right" in the same post.

do you even read ?or have some sort of case of being special ? I didn't meant to say shes useless , especially since i didn't used the word myself. I just agree with the part of the phrase that said that she's unworthy. I still think she's not worth the cost in most cases. (notice how i rambled on about costs ?) DOesnt change the fact that she is a good unit statwise that can be used at certain times.


Like you are literally impossible. You've said useless was a bad word. I agreed with you and said that i didn't meant that. Then everyone agree with me that saki is not a priority unit. Like wtf is left to even fucking argue ?


Whatever if i actually meant useless or worthless in my post ? Just looking at it should be obvious that i meant she's not worth the investment , seeing as i rambled about costs and THEN i even said that she has her uses for maps that require ranged on melee. If its not obvious from that , that useless was not the word i was going for , i dunno what else to say.

I gave you the more acceptable term "wasteful" four pages back, and you continued to argue that she wasn't a necessity, while simultaneously never offering any free alternatives for people to use, because you somehow assumed everyone has the ranged DPS for maps with limited range slots like Mighty Ogres X. How the hell did you even 3* that map, anyway? Buffs don't count, that's the easy way out and invalidates most strategies.

i didn't 3 starred mighty ogres X. (As i said earlier , solano's event was 1 of the events i didn't 3 starred. )Well , at least not on my first account. I think i did it on the nanaly account tho. can't remember exactly. regardless , it doesn't matter since the last map was way out of my realm of posibility with the units i had at the time. So didn't 3 starred the event.


Also , corection : i didn't said that she's not a necesity. I said that she's not a priority , unless you have extra dcs.



Actually , realistically speaking she's not a necesity FOR QUITE SOME TIME (you will need her eventually since her saw is rather good , and she is a good unit statwise) when building a good army either (KEEP IN MIND THAT I AM TALKING HYPOTHETICALLY RIGHT NOW) , unless you really really need a ranged on melee slot and were unlucky to get rika , horace , charlotte or even azami if u want to consider her (even tho she's meh) and so on.

That generally includes newbies that started at most a month or 2 ago. I would argue that said people have other priorities untill aquiring a ranged melee slot. And untill they will have their core team up , we will probably get another event that will involve a unit like that , and they will be better served by using those dcs on other stuff.



That literally means 2 things : if you're a veteran , you can wait on getting her because you probably have replacements. If you're a newbie , you have other priorities anyway. Either way , saki is better to get when you have a surplus of DC , otherwise , i agree with you , she is wasteful...aka she's not worth.

Fuck reunion G hahahaha

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This aside i have had "decent" luck with drops, considering my luck, been geting 14 minimum, 19 average and 24 once every second day

actually i got for the last day only 2 or 3 drops as well mate. Pretty shitty