Thread: The Princess, The Bandits, and The Capital of Evil Spirits Guide

because he's gonna replace them with magic fencers since everyone including him and those who joined only in 2016 have horus and charlotte and therefore saki = useless.
also because he has azami therefore saki is useless since azami can do everything saki can do (except the truth of the matter is that she actually can't). also because a unit is only useful if she doesnt need to be maxed out.

now if only our blacks actually have their pre-AW passives implemented.

Originally Posted by soranokira

because he's gonna replace them with magic fencers since everyone including him and those who joined only in 2016 have horus and charlotte and therefore saki = useless.
also because he has azami therefore saki is useless since azami can do everything saki can do (except the truth of the matter is that she actually can't). also because a unit is only useful if she doesnt need to be maxed out.

now if only our blacks actually have their pre-AW passives implemented.

I didn't even bring up magic fencers because the pumpkins here have MR, as well as the mummies on desert maps that need most of its ranged slots taken up by healers/archers, so you get better mileage out of ninja assassination there too.

And cost isn't a point against Saki either, seeing as our magic fencers also cost a lot to deploy, and neither of them should be your first deployment in a map.

Overall, this has less to do with lolix having some weird hate-boner over Saki and more that he has no idea what he's talking about (as usual) and him hating Saki is just a by-product of that.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

I didn't even bring up magic fencers because the pumpkins here have MR, as well as the mummies on desert maps that need most of its ranged slots taken up by healers/archers, so you get better mileage out of ninja assassination there too.

And cost isn't a point against Saki either, seeing as our magic fencers also cost a lot to deploy, and neither of them should be your first deployment in a map.

Overall, this has less to do with lolix having some weird hate-boner over Saki and more that he has no idea what he's talking about (as usual) and him hating Saki is just a by-product of that.

I was mixing sarcasm with what he was thinking btw. it's ok, he can preach what he wants while we continue to use the units that we feel are good.

which is exactly what i said eab (the part about me having something with saki). Also i don't get how exactly you guys missed the part were i said saki is a good unit stat wise. AKA , SHE HAS GOOD STATS ONCE DEPLOYED AND IT'S IN NO WAY BAD FOR WHAT SHE'S SUPPOSED TO DO.


I just pointed out that 300 dcs is a lot. 100 more even more so , if you want to make her cheaper to deploy , for a unit that will have fairly average (or under average usage) when you can simply use said dc's on priority stuff. She is in no way a priority unit to aquire.


Somehow you guys keep going over that part and bash me for saying that saki is not good. I said she's useless. As in "she has no uses". Obviously that's hyperbole , as eab pointed out , but that doesn't change the fact that she is a very costly unit to aquire , and some might consider her not being worth the investment. i am one of those. I've yet to have an event where i really though "man , my first account is doing so well with saki , i should really get her for my second"

For example i've 3stared lynn's event without her , and as far as i know , that was 1 of the events were a ninja would have been really good seeing as we had maps without ranged slots.


That being said , if you want to use it , just use it. Nobody is stoping you from sinking your dcs in it.

I love all the drama that surrounds Saki on these forums. Good times!

Originally Posted by lolix

which is exactly what i said eab (the part about me having something with saki). Also i don't get how exactly you guys missed the part were i said saki is a good unit stat wise. AKA , SHE HAS GOOD STATS ONCE DEPLOYED AND IT'S IN NO WAY BAD FOR WHAT SHE'S SUPPOSED TO DO.


I just pointed out that 300 dcs is a lot. 100 more even more so , if you want to make her cheaper to deploy , for a unit that will have fairly average (or under average usage) when you can simply use said dc's on priority stuff. She is in no way a priority unit to aquire.


Somehow you guys keep going over that part and bash me for saying that saki is not good. I said she's useless. As in "she has no uses". Obviously that's hyperbole , as eab pointed out , but that doesn't change the fact that she is a very costly unit to aquire , and some might consider her not being worth the investment. i am one of those. I've yet to have an event where i really though "man , my first account is doing so well with saki , i should really get her for my second"

For example i've 3stared lynn's event without her , and as far as i know , that was 1 of the events were a ninja would have been really good seeing as we had maps without ranged slots.


That being said , if you want to use it , just use it. Nobody is stoping you from sinking your dcs in it.

We'll spend that 100 aw dc for all gold+ units we use anyway so no need to worry about it, except the ones like anna ofc. There are risk factors in most maps, most of them dependent on rng and timing, and saki is a bonus unit which decreases these risk factors because of having high stats and being a multipurpose unit. Ofc you can clear all maps without saki but if you're not whale and have no full black + good plat team you'll get in trouble with most of the difficult maps because of low dmg. One of you guys implied about magic fencers, i dont think we have an easy access to a good magic fencer, didnt heard someone saying ricardo is an useful unit too.

ok , i can get behind that. She's a panic buton. A lot of blacks are because of black skills. She's still expensive , and she's still not a priority unit in any case. Don't tell me you would rather get saki then get and awaken spica , or your core HAT units first ?

Originally Posted by lolix

Don't tell me you would rather get saki then get and awaken spica , or your core HAT units first ?

I got Spica, then got Saki, then awakening came and I awoke Bernice, Iris, Betty and Katie (so far). I do not regret getting saki, even though I still haven't CC'ed.
My current limiting factor for awakening isn't DCs, it's unit experience and silver fodder. Possible other use for the 300 DCs would be getting a second Spica to CR the main, not sure if an extra unit is better than a CRed unit or not.

Originally Posted by lolix

ok , i can get behind that. She's a panic buton. A lot of blacks are because of black skills. She's still expensive , and she's still not a priority unit in any case. Don't tell me you would rather get saki then get and awaken spica , or your core HAT units first ?

In all honesty the only Awakened unit you really need is a Healer (even then you don't really), there are many video solutions to maps where you don't require Awakened units or use a variety of different units to fill for not having a certain unit.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

I didn't even bring up magic fencers because the pumpkins here have MR, as well as the mummies on desert maps that need most of its ranged slots taken up by healers/archers, so you get better mileage out of ninja assassination there too.

Due to their ability to toggle damage type via skill activation Enemy MR and Armor are relatively minor concerns for Magic Fencers compared to the fact that they have a ranged damage penalty and much slower attack speed than ninjas--things have to be pretty heavily armored before magic fencers really rival ninjas in dps. Charlotte and Horace actually can do quite well in this event but that has more to do with the fact that they have decent health and MR and thus are competent lightning rods in addition to pitching in some extra damage at range and dueling in melee. They're more like off-tanks than a big pile of extra dps.