Thread: How to Spend Demon Crystals on a new account

I personally feel there is no need to rush crystal keeper G since it's pretty tough and you really need more than just 2 AW archers for that map. also, nagi is the only potential ranged melee that we should get within the next couple of months, but even then having saki is good because nagi and saki fulfill slightly different roles (saki more for wave clear and nagi more for slightly armored units). and that's assuming you don't get fucked over by not having a ranged melee during the events up till nagi's event.

At lolix, thank you for settling that with me, I think I understand your take now.

At Asdf, I agree that things are very flexible as I've found, but new maps can also be extremely varied. Looking at the 100/2 map from Rita event and one Sora posted in other thread makes me think that some sort of ranged on melee unit like a ninja would make things much easier. They may be few and far between, but if so few maps even at G level require multiple AW'd units then why would you not pick up a a good ninja first to ensure you can at least get completion rewards in the meanwhile? More rainbows and SCs from events is a good thing.

At sora, I say two AW archers for Crystal G because the best guide i could find did it with two Archers as only AW units. I'll link it so maybe you can tell me something I'm missing about the units used that made things easier than they would be for myself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opkyCVn3P0k The buff to dmg against flying units innate to archer AW is insane, enough that I can't even touch X with maxed archers and healers ready for AW. If your opinion is that having saki for events first and putting off Crystal G when you can still farm H in the meantime is better, then I can see that as well. It is a large step up in difficulty for sure. About the lack of silver healers, that's a big thing. If you only do map completion and tutorial, you only get 4 silver healers and iris, leaving you 1 short of getting 3 CCed Healers which are very much necessary to complete the story maps and farm a lot of harder maps. If I hadn't been lucky enough to pick up an extra silver from Shrine, I'd still be farming Fiery Oasis instead of Base Scramble II and unable to do half the EX orb dailies.

Thank you again for the input everyone.

well at the very least I can say that it's not going to be viable for us at nutaku aigis to clear G easy with units like in that video. that AW claire can one shot gazers during skill, and there is no replacement for her aside from maybe a 2nd spica. and we're still going to need a feng shui user and sandra, both event units but i dont think we'll get them soon. bashira and nanaly don't have that up time. although then again there's is a possibility that AW nanaly might manage with enough levels (AW99?), but I wouldnt really count on it myself and I can live with farming H and X maps.

Personally, Spica, Bernice and Katie were my priority targets for Awakening. I did this because the big advantage strong healers have over weak ones is space and UP efficiency. As long as those two things aren't a critical issue you can just throw in extra lesser healers until the attrition is no longer a problem. By contrast multiple weak tanks can't really handle super heavy swings the same way 1 strong tank can. It doesn't matter how many friends you have if you're facing down X incoming damage but only have X-1 max effective health--as a wise man once said, people die if they are killed. With that said, Awakening a healer is still useful since obviously there's going to be times where space and points is at a premium or funneling all the damage onto your AW tanks is impractical if not impossible. Besides, as ZeroZet said, we're still early enough in the game where the relative advantages of who you awaken first are mostly academic.

At Kayfabe, that was my reasoning for AW Katie, being I have no gold+ Heavys. As my off tank and most universally used unit, and a percent boost to team to boot, I figured I'd get most use out of her. Monica was just more DCs = faster future AW, though I do use her a bit since she's available. The problem with just add more lesser healers are the general lack of healers. I realize Christopher was farmable during General event but my 3 week account couldn't do the X map to farm it, hopefully another opportunity soon.

At sora, so the 2nd archer he uses is not available to us, and has a high uptime skill that lets it clear much easier, that's rough news. on the feng shui front, is it so much better than another quality healer so as to be a sizeable upgrade? For the fencer front, he has so much extra UP and slots left at the end that I assumed some mages could clear that death ball at the end of the map. I'm willing to take your experience though and just grab Saki before AW my Bashira if that won't be enough with AW Spica to clear this map.

The X video guide by the same user also uses that feng shui user to clear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9bGzLI7Y0o Will I not be able to simply sub in my maxed Iris and expect similar results once i have AW Spica? If not then why? I may be misunderstanding something about how feng shui users work in general. To my understanding it is just a weaker heal that heals two units at a time (relatively minor, similar to the differences between an archer and VH for example).

Feng Shuists also passively reduce effects of a poison, so, for X/G maps, their presence is a great boon, even discounting their ability to maintain more units and so not having to alternate targets.

And, eyeballs have MR, so you really don't want to field magi against them. Artillerists would be far better choice.

You should be able to do x crystal map without a feng shui user. But you will need a awakened spica and 2 very good healers atleast..

I started this account in February. I bought Cyrus first as I had a gaping hole in my mage stocks. I am still relying on Cyrus and Valerie now so it was a good investment. If you have a hole and DC spending can fill it I think its worth it as a free player as there are no guarantees you will get anything better soon. Chances to get anything better are rare at best unless you spend some money.

Next I bought Spica. I currently have her at 50CC70 at +1 skill and she is well worth it, even if you have other archers like Shao. I want to make Spica a perfect awakened unit so I will likely go for an Awakening Fairy or two next, then another Spica for that guaranteed -1CR.

Saki isn't even on my radar as I got lucky early on and pulled Hina.

A big hurdle to Awakening I'm finding is beating the EX maps that drop the orbs. As a free player that 90 charisma hit for losing stings as I can't grind out on them. Plus the archer map being on Gold/platy farm day makes me very reluctant to waste resources I should use on that.

That said I do have a Heavy Armour orb (or whatever they are called) so I can do Bernice if I ever get the silver/gold unit resources. Where Spica I almost have enough gold/silver resources but the 2 orbs are so far away as I'm nowhere near close to beating the map to get them - long story short I lack the second tank needed to do it.

A lot relies on how your army is developed, what units you were lucky enough to get and where your strengths and weaknesses like in beating the awakening orb maps. Plus you can get helped or screwed when farming silver units. So many random factors!

Well Spica is definitely one of the better units you can get. Most other archers only get a measly "will target X type of unit as priority after range" passive which is largely ignoreable. Spica actually gets more damage to all archers and has great damage as well.

As for the question of when to Saki, that totally depends on your own team and your DC and what AW fodders you have available. If you haven't even started leveling the fodders yet, then what point is there to wait to awaken things instead of getting Saki? On the other hand if you have some core units or very very special units around that are maxed and you can awaken rather soon then Saki will be taking a lower priority.

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if you feel that saki will be critical in getting that completion reward then by all means get her Saki has her merits. I am not about to argue on that. I would have to agree with Tenhou on his stand on when to get Saki. I, for one wouldn't rush to get her but I am not a completely F2P player so my views might be a little skewed. Do what you feel is best for your team