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  1. #61
    I didnt use any premium units either, I used event units.
    the only AW I used is probably spica, since AW katie 2% def is a bit meh. never used a heavy so bernice AW doesnt affect. didnt use saki so AW saki doesnt affect either. but up to you. whatever you use is really just whatever floats your boat. like I said before, subjugations are a good time to test and find out what your team is lacking, and working to improve your team by working on that weak link. I personally feel that having 2~3 mages (or maybe 2 witch 2 mage) should be sufficient to dps down everything without needing a heavy. then again I had claudia (princess/duelist) to absorb the damage from the black wolf riders and killing them before they could do much damage to my ranged.

    there are 10,001 to achieving something.

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    this is my early game setup. I have a lot of rather unnecessary units including a shuuka (advance guard, located at last melee spot behind prince) and a Len (rearguard, top right ranged unit). Len is replaceable with an archer/witch. Shuuka can be removed to place another ranged up top.



    my team:


    and then, my end-game setup: (only 2 units changed)



    in theory, taking out Len and Shuuka and replacing with 2 witches, then taking out katie to place a heavy as lightning rod for your 2 witches as well as stop the wolves/black gob riders, should suffice. which means you should still have 3 extra slots for lightning rods.
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  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by soranokira View Post
    I didnt use any premium units either, I used event units.
    the only AW I used is probably spica, since AW katie 2% def is a bit meh. never used a heavy so bernice AW doesnt affect. didnt use saki so AW saki doesnt affect either. but up to you. whatever you use is really just whatever floats your boat. like I said before, subjugations are a good time to test and find out what your team is lacking, and working to improve your team by working on that weak link. I personally feel that having 2~3 mages (or maybe 2 witch 2 mage) should be sufficient to dps down everything without needing a heavy. then again I had claudia (princess/duelist) to absorb the damage from the black wolf riders and killing them before they could do much damage to my ranged.

    there are 10,001 to achieving something.

    - - - Updated - - -

    this is my early game setup. I have a lot of rather unnecessary units including a shuuka (advance guard, located at last melee spot behind prince) and a Len (rearguard, top right ranged unit). Len is replaceable with an archer/witch. Shuuka can be removed to place another ranged up top.



    my team:


    and then, my end-game setup: (only 2 units changed)
    I should start by saying "premium units' was a poor choice of words. I mean anything that isn't a basic (guaranteed) unit. So, units from premium summons AND event units would count. My bad.

    With that said thanks for sharing your set up. I have mostly 50cc40/50 units so the extra levels (and non-freemium units) are likely why you got away with 2 healers. Anyways great job! I will continue to level Imelia and hope for the best on my next try. (at this point even my failures are ok since they are 400+ and thus better than running the easier one)

    Edit:

    On a side note you might notice that I haven't CCed my Phyllis...I don't like the unit and want to replace it with Assal once I can get through the base scrambles.
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  3. #63
    you probably dont need to CC phyllis. soldiers aren't supposed to tank much here. and that's the thing: you're supposed to nuke the mobs to death in this map, which is why they have such a long way to walk. also, barbastroff isn't much stronger than valerie/pallis. neither is fedora all that much stronger than alissa. and i guess I'll try running with silvers later. in theory it should not be an issue.

    edit: scratch that. I managed 460+ kills using

    I'll get back to you whether I can make 500. only reason I got 460+ was due to mortimer not having enough def since I was using him as duelist in replacement for claudia. going to level up imelia to 50cc30 first. her raw stats atm is telling me she has sufficient stats to survive the black gob rider rush.

    edit2: decided to throw 110 green crystals into sp summon.
    iron - iron - iron - iron - bronze - silver - iron - bronze - iron - bronze - bronze - bronze - bronze - iron - bronze - bronze - bronze - silver - bronze - iron - bronze - bronze.
    8 iron
    12 bronze
    2 silver.

    my luck orz
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    you should be able to complete the map with that team imo. 3 healers and enough duelists to use as rods for the last lich rush. Also , u can replace phylis with another leane or duelist. I've managed to complete this map with just a katie and no valk for god's sake.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by lolix View Post
    you should be able to complete the map with that team imo. 3 healers and enough duelists to use as rods for the last lich rush. Also , u can replace phylis with another leane or duelist. I've managed to complete this map with just a katie and no valk for god's sake.
    yeah I accidentally let mortimer die because late in skill usage at the 400th creep mark. placing subsequent units was also late and odette died. otherwise in theory, 2 healers are enough, which was what I was trying to prove. admittedly, that's because I'm using 1 plat mage (which king dong has in the form of sasha)

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    Quote Originally Posted by soranokira View Post
    yeah I accidentally let mortimer die because late in skill usage at the 400th creep mark. placing subsequent units was also late and odette died. otherwise in theory, 2 healers are enough, which was what I was trying to prove. admittedly, that's because I'm using 1 plat mage (which king dong has in the form of sasha)
    True...BUT on the account that I only have two healers I don't have Sasha. lol :P

    Either way it would be interesting to see if you can make a f2p-ish 2 healer party work.
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    i made a f2p 2 healer party work....on 2 different accounts. Then again my 2 accounts each has either an awakened iris or an awakened camilla.




    But , i'm guessing you meant just a basic units/silvers run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolix View Post
    i made a f2p 2 healer party work....on 2 different accounts. Then again my 2 accounts each has either an awakened iris or an awakened camilla.

    But , i'm guessing you meant just a basic units/silvers run.
    I mean a basic units/silvers run would be interesting, but what I really need is just to be able to beat it with the two accounts in my signature.

    Each is f2p with only 1 event unit (Imelia -1 cr 4/10) and 1 or 2 premium units (Aisha on one, and Sasha/Marr on the other)
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Dong View Post

    Each is f2p with only 1 event unit (Imelia -1 cr 4/10) and 1 or 2 premium units (Aisha on one, and Sasha/Marr on the other)

    You're spoiled then , if those are your premium units. Aisha is a goddess of destruction , and both sasha and marr are very useful

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by lolix View Post
    You're spoiled then , if those are your premium units. Aisha is a goddess of destruction , and both sasha and marr are very useful
    Farmed 100+ restarts, so I feel like I earned them.

    Although honestly I have really experienced their power yet. Sasha only hits a little harder than Valerie, and I haven't REALLY needed a third healer until now (so Marr hasn't gotten to shine). As for Aisha well you know they say she isn't really all that impressive until you AW her, and she is a Black, and I have no AW's yet. Heck I don't even have the units to CC her yet. ;(

    With that said I am happy that I have them.
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