Quote Originally Posted by soranokira View Post
...1 heavy? didnt realize 1 heavy was needed. I guess my dps too high for that.
I did it with 2 healers, iris and fedora. alissa on skill heals about the same as fedora (probably higher) so.
2 mages yes. 2 witches...I didnt use any. just had 2 archers (or at least I'll just consider Len as an archer for now)
2 soldiers. best. valk for UP generation.

you managed to get to 491 so you need to see what the issue is (aside from the liches). you should have room for 4 lightning rods if you did right. Imelia and Eunice can both be lightning rods. also, it honestly doesnt matter even if you fail the 50 DCs. you're still new so it can't be helped. I've missed 50 DCs on DMM 3 times.

edit: also, cut out units that you dont need. gargoyles should be easily handled with archer+mage. you can only improve if you try to analyze your own team and how you can make it better yourself, since it's yours. also, remember that units CAN die in subjugations. just let your bandits/elaine etc. die tanking lich dmg.
I should have mentioned I'm F2P, and I have 0 AWs...the videos (I watched at least 6) that I saw all had roughly that set up with 0 AWs. You might not need a heavy if you have AWs or premium damage units.

Quote Originally Posted by JMich View Post
You do not need a second MR tank. There are a few guides that use 2 soldiers for UP generation (Katie and Phyllis), like key kii's and there's also this one that uses bandits to slow the liches.
Remember, you only need to do the 500 kills once, after that you can go with 491 ones to grind the 10000 total kills.
The second video was actually one I hadn't seen. Although, it really just used the same set up as most of the other ones, but used an archer where most used a Mage/Witch, or in one case a ??? (the witch that heals with skill use I forget what it is called). For me at least my Sasha is better than an equivalent archer I believe, and my double witches seems to be doing good on the right.

Overall my current plan is to get Imelia to 50cc30 and try again. If that doesn't work I will just have to be really sad, and try to figure something else out.