Thread: Want some advice

I wouldn't say Sybilla is the worst. She is still really good and she has a very high single-target ranged DPS. She also has stats that allow her to be used in a lot more situations than Themis, Sherry, or Olivie can handle. You can also use her skill immediately, which is always useful when you're in a pinch.

The reason why it's easy to assume that Sybilla looks the worst these days is because of how the developers are making Premium Platinum units really good now. They are making them more powerful with Skill Awakenings and are nearly on the level of Black units. There are many good Premium Platinum units now and those include the following: Ridy (Pegasus Rider), Sherry (Princess), Lilia (Princess), Cypria (Rogue), Sabine (Magic Swordsman), and Jessica (Mage Armor). I may have missed some but those are some of the notable ones. They are making Platinum units more appealing to use since they were always overlooked in favor of Black units. It's also because of the difficulty to get them cost reductions compared to event units.

Don't have a Black unit? Look no further since those Premium Platinum units become very good in the future.

Oh, I'd much rather have pulled Olivie than a second Sybilla, don't get me wrong. I started too late to acquire Karma so Olivie's MC hammer dance would be a priceless addition. I just meant that most maps do not actually require an uber duelist and even less require two uber duelists. Basically, I see Sybilla as competing for a slot with my magic fencers and the Saki I haven't yet bothered to acquire, not with Karma or Olivie.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Oh, I'd much rather have pulled Olivie than a second Sybilla, don't get me wrong. I started too late to acquire Karma so Olivie's MC hammer dance would be a priceless addition. I just meant that most maps do not actually require an uber duelist and even less require two uber duelists. Basically, I see Sybilla as competing for a slot with my magic fencers and the Saki I haven't yet bothered to acquire, not with Karma or Olivie.

thing is, magic fencers would be competing against ninjas, not princesses. they're used more for their range than 'magic dmg on activation duelist'
I'd CR/SU the sybilla prime myself, but doesnt mean that having 2-3 duelist isn't necessary, most notably the somewhat recent 2nd G tier map in Horus event. (3 liches) and the 8th map (also 3 liches)

As said above, it really depends on your roster and how many good duelists you can field. Once you've been playing for awhile and have a wide variety of units that can fill the same role, even having dupes of amazing units loses its charm. Typically I value diversity more than anything else, because the game rarely gives us maps where two different lanes of the same map are most optimally handled the same way.

In fact, the only unit I can think of that I ever wished I had a half dozen of to field at once is Lisse Lotte. <_< But she's a bit of a special case since she's a ramp unit.

Originally Posted by Rieyn

As said above, it really depends on your roster and how many good duelists you can field. Once you've been playing for awhile and have a wide variety of units that can fill the same role, even having dupes of amazing units loses its charm. Typically I value diversity more than anything else, because the game rarely gives us maps where two different lanes of the same map are most optimally handled the same way.

In fact, the only unit I can think of that I ever wished I had a half dozen of to field at once is Lisse Lotte. <_< But she's a bit of a special case since she's a ramp unit.

frankly speaking that's probably only because she's somewhat easy to mincost and SU. assuming you can get all mincosted/max skilled units, I'd prefer a couple of different ramp units e.g. Jerome+Aria+Katie+Lieselotte, just for multiple different buffs to have, instead of having all be Lieselotte.
then again, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7g_jJEB3s8 disagrees. (naturally, also another special case)

Originally Posted by Rieyn

As said above, it really depends on your roster and how many good duelists you can field

Yeah, it's the context of my roster that even really makes it a question. In a perfect world I'd handpick a varied toolkit of units over having randomly acquired 2 copies of Sybilla but in reality I'm at the mercy of RNG and events like everyone else. I'll probably just go ahead and CR/SU her up since awakening both would be obnoxiously expensive anyway. I am a bit tempted to leave the second one at around level 40 for a while though and use her as my second magic sponge/duelist until something more interesting comes along and I feed her to Sybilla Prime. I mean, hey, Sybilla may not be the best unit but at least she doesn't need to be CC'd, which is more than I can say for my other stepping stone units. :P

Originally Posted by kayfabe

Yeah, it's the context of my roster that even really makes it a question. In a perfect world I'd handpick a varied toolkit of units over having randomly acquired 2 copies of Sybilla but in reality I'm at the mercy of RNG and events like everyone else. I'll probably just go ahead and CR/SU her up since awakening both would be obnoxiously expensive anyway. I am a bit tempted to leave the second one at around level 40 for a while though and use her as my second magic sponge/duelist until something more interesting comes along and I feed her to Sybilla Prime. I mean, hey, Sybilla may not be the best unit but at least she doesn't need to be CC'd, which is more than I can say for my other stepping stone units. :P

Sybilla is actually one of units that (from what I seen in the sticky thread) lose some functionality upon SkillAwakening - she trades assassination for ranged attack. So keeping two copies of her - one SAW'd and one not - may actually be reasonable choice.)

Originally Posted by soranokira

frankly speaking that's probably only because she's somewhat easy to mincost and SU. assuming you can get all mincosted/max skilled units, I'd prefer a couple of different ramp units e.g. Jerome+Aria+Katie+Lieselotte, just for multiple different buffs to have, instead of having all be Lieselotte.
then again, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7g_jJEB3s8 disagrees. (naturally, also another special case)

Well yeah, I suppose that bringing an event unit into a discussion about premium units and RNG wasn't really appropriate, but it was simply to illustrate that I'm pining over a free unit more than something significantly more rare and potentially expensive.

Apples to pears aside, in a perfect world, I'd love a varied ramp roster too. But I also accept that it's unlikely to happen, nor does it matter enough to me to throw $ at DMM for the shot at it. So by my standards, having dupes of blacks or plats is more unlucky than lucky (Although still more lucky than getting your 6th Conrad or Betty...) It just so happens that Lisse Lotte is the one unit I wouldn't mind having more of, because as you said, she's easier to SU and mincost than someone like Jerome or Zenobia, and ultimately performs better because of it.