Thread: Should I skip Emilia's event?

Originally Posted by AzureWinter

In the remaining two days I had, I used up my stamina from waiting and spent like 3 shards. Why not, I never use them anymore I just save them.
I managed to get her skill up to level 4. But, I didnt get any cost reductions I think? Is 10 her base unit cost?

No, her max cost is 12 before Class Evolution and 15 after. So I assume you got -2 UC from your combinations. That, or -5, if you got her Evolved.

I have posted this some time ago on wiki, but still not sure what todo with 14 copies of Emilia.
Note: Kerry 11 UP

1) AW Kerry and boost her lv because class bonus EXP combination

2) Lv up not same class plats (Probably Imelia or Shizuka) using 2 Emilia + 2 Spirit OR 1 Emilia + 3 silver spirits (I have a lot of them unexpended)

Also, do I need Emilia as a unit? Because I don't fell like rising her at all. My duelists at the moment are Sherry, Claudia, Imelia, Kerry and Conrad. I don't know if I can call her duelist, but there is also Horace.

Emilia's about dead even with Kerry without skills (and have a better skill), so between them use one that costs lower)

Second one bring to CC1 for a proper bed warming

With Kerry already reduced twice and leveled and no need for extra duelists, I'd probably skip investing a lot into Emilia. Unless you're in a rush for xp on a particular unit, you should always aim to get more bonus xp by combining same class if you still need levels. As for 2-2 or 1-3 on spirit usage that depends on your number of spare spirits and space constraints, only you can answer that. Typically I do 2-2 for farm units myself though.

Originally Posted by Hiatus

I have posted this some time ago on wiki, but still not sure what todo with 14 copies of Emilia.
Note: Kerry 11 UP

1) AW Kerry and boost her lv because class bonus EXP combination

2) Lv up not same class plats (Probably Imelia or Shizuka) using 2 Emilia + 2 Spirit OR 1 Emilia + 3 silver spirits (I have a lot of them unexpended)

Also, do I need Emilia as a unit? Because I don't fell like rising her at all. My duelists at the moment are Sherry, Claudia, Imelia, Kerry and Conrad. I don't know if I can call her duelist, but there is also Horace.

14 Emilias? You should get:
CR:
1 Guaranteed (2 used, original and 1st fodder)
50% chance for next CR = 2 for this one (4 total, original + 3 fodder)
25% chance for each subsequent CR = 4 for 3rd CR (8 total)
4th CR: 12 total
So on average, you should have Cost -4, 50% chance of perfect -5. After CC UP cost: 11, maybe 10

SU:
1 Guaranteed (2 total)
75% chance: let's call it 2, be a tad pessimistic (4 total)
50% chance: 2 more (6 total)
25% chance: 4 more (10 total)
4 extras if things aren't on average
Average Result: 5/5 skill

Thus you should be at -4 UP, 5/5 skill, with a potential -5 UP if u get lucky, if you go by averages

Now that said, how does she compare to your mentioned duelists?
As a duelist: You drop her in advance or everyone besides Kerry mops the floor with her. If you can do so, she'll rock the target enemy better than any of them (her stats during skill are better than the Black Valkyrie Clissa) except against high defense enemies where Sherry and Claudia's magic damage will outperform (though her defense will be higher to take hits)
As a lightning rod: Loses to all of them due to HP
As a UP ramp: only Kerry is competition, Kerry is a better UP ramp AW without Skill AW due to much higher attack to one-shot the weak enemies that are prevalent early in maps, after Skill AW Emilia wins easily

Conclusion: She will likely outperform Kerry unless you get unlucky with your combinations, the rest are generally preferable as duelists since they do not require advance deployment to function as proper duelists. She'll either make your team as a Kerry replacement or you'll keep one copy for harem completion purposes and use the rest as lesser platinum armor fodder (recommend for Sherry, Claudia and Imelia)

Originally Posted by IvanLedah21

14 Emilias? You should get:
CR:
1 Guaranteed (2 used, original and 1st fodder)
50% chance for next CR = 2 for this one (4 total, original + 3 fodder)
25% chance for each subsequent CR = 4 for 3rd CR (8 total)
4th CR: 12 total
So on average, you should have Cost -4, 50% chance of perfect -5. After CC UP cost: 11, maybe 10

SU:
1 Guaranteed (2 total)
75% chance: let's call it 2, be a tad pessimistic (4 total)
50% chance: 2 more (6 total)
25% chance: 4 more (10 total)
4 extras if things aren't on average
Average Result: 5/5 skill

Thus you should be at -4 UP, 5/5 skill, with a potential -5 UP if u get lucky, if you go by averages

Now that said, how does she compare to your mentioned duelists?
As a duelist: You drop her in advance or everyone besides Kerry mops the floor with her. If you can do so, she'll rock the target enemy better than any of them (her stats during skill are better than the Black Valkyrie Clissa) except against high defense enemies where Sherry and Claudia's magic damage will outperform (though her defense will be higher to take hits)
As a lightning rod: Loses to all of them due to HP
As a UP ramp: only Kerry is competition, Kerry is a better UP ramp AW without Skill AW due to much higher attack to one-shot the weak enemies that are prevalent early in maps, after Skill AW Emilia wins easily

Conclusion: She will likely outperform Kerry unless you get unlucky with your combinations, the rest are generally preferable as duelists since they do not require advance deployment to function as proper duelists. She'll either make your team as a Kerry replacement or you'll keep one copy for harem completion purposes and use the rest as lesser platinum armor fodder (recommend for Sherry, Claudia and Imelia)

Idk. U forgot that he has SHERRY. With Sherry in his team Kerry gains an additional 5% HP, ATK and DEF wich works with her skill. Thanks to Sherry boost she will actualy end up at both skill use (depending on her skill level) same or even more ATK then Emilia and he has her on 11 up. Its just that Kerrys Attack Speed is lower. Ramping up she wins and with sherry and being cost reduced and skill upped idk if Emilia stands a chance, even comparing both during skill use outside of pure tankiness vs physical damage.

Originally Posted by IvanLedah21

14 Emilias? You should get:

SU:
1 Guaranteed (2 total)
75% chance: let's call it 2, be a tad pessimistic (4 total)
50% chance: 2 more (6 total)
25% chance: 4 more (10 total)
4 extras if things aren't on average
Average Result: 5/5 skill

Thus you should be at -4 UP, 5/5 skill, with a potential -5 UP if u get lucky, if you go by averages

also, emilia copies are not rainbow fairies.

We need more sora presence on the forums to keep these crazies in line :0

Originally Posted by soranokira

also, emilia copies are not rainbow fairies.

Ouch those last few Skill Ups look painful with same unit, makes me feel lucky on getting Emilia Skill up within 8 units!!

Originally Posted by soranokira

also, emilia copies are not rainbow fairies.

FML, you're right, I was looking at the Rainbow Fairies' SU chance.

Re-calculating SU chance:
1st guaranteed = 2 copies total
2nd 50% = 4 copies total
3rd 25% = 8 copies total
4th 5% = highly unlikely to get within the remaining 6 copies

End result: CR -4, possibly 5, SU 4/5, have to be REALLY lucky to get 5/5

@Nero: True, AW Sherry buffs Kerry to have an edge without skill, but while AW Kerry will undoubtedly one-shot trash, if they come in groups, she will also undoubtedly leak through due to lower attack speed. Yes, you'd have to level Emilia a LOT to one-shot but without knowing enemy goblin stats, I'd think it possible. Kerry will always one-shot goblins AW but will leak them through with that much lower attack speed, so it might balance out. During skill there's no contest as a duelist, so it's a toss-up. Personally, I'd stick with Kerry just because the amount of resources required to raise his Emilia, not to mention needing a bit of luck for her cost to be on par (quite a bit more to be 1 less), when he can just keep one copy for harem and use the rest as mini-plat armors... yeah, I'd stick with Kerry myself, especially with the AW Sherry.