Thread: The Summon Beast in the Earth Guide

Originally Posted by Daverost (Unregistered)

Are people really having that hard of a time keeping up with events?

Even for Solano's event, which was really hard and took several retries, I had 32/36 stars within three or four days, leaving me the rest of the two weeks to do whatever I wanted. I've been spending it on her event to farm silvers for CC and using spare charisma to get fodder for leveling from story maps, but I could just as easily farm money or affection items or whatever else. With a ton of time to spare.

And I saw crystals come up. I'm a free player. I had 59 stocked up and nothing to do with them. Even though I had been using some on the tail end of the last few events to make sure I could cost limit Shiho and Lynn and get to a reasonable point for Len's boosts. That's not hard either.

We really don't need breaks. There's absolutely no reason. Not even for a week. There's an event going on RIGHT NOW and I'm already bored because I've finished it with more than a week left.

point being, what about affection? if you've really managed to full aff Lynn, Len and shiho, then good for you, but not everyone is that lucky. and what about those newbies still too weak to do solano even though they're about 2 months old? and fyi, I spent 9 SCs, which got me about 18 Lynns, and I STILL couldnt max CR her. you being able to max CR Lynn can be said to be luck in itself.

Edit: and well, http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Event_Missions pretty much have people mentioning how brutal it is to start late in DMM aigis thanks to the back-to-back, and even 2 months in may not be able to get a solid team up and running for events. Hence my opinion that back-to-back isn't such a great idea. but *shrugs* it's also true that people will manage somehow, or just have to suck it up and fail events. Nobody will die, but it doesn't hurt to request for breaks.
For one thing, I'm actually perfectly fine with things if charisma can be used to farm stuff other than unit exp, and heard from charles that it's pretty much what subjugation is, so I'm hoping such stuff comes soon, and back-to-back is not an issue if the events in between are revivals, but if they're new...meh. and from what I can tell, at least the most recent jp event has a 1-2 day break in between (event ended 12/11, next event start 14/11)

'I want to full affection everything!' and 'I was unlucky!' are even less effective arguments than were raised earlier in the thread.
Going off a few comments of people complaining will give you a false representation of the game, after all people will sooner rush to complain than they will to praise something. The only way to really know what it's like to play DMM is to go and play it. Also there's no break, just like every other event.

Originally Posted by soranokira

at least the most recent jp event has a 1-2 day break in between (event ended 12/11, next event start 14/11)

The event has already started in DMM with no break. You're confusing it with the platinum puppeteer revival event, which starts at 14/11 and will run together with the event that has started for two days only.

Originally Posted by Saion

The event has already started in DMM with no break. You're confusing it with the platinum puppeteer revival event, which starts at 14/11 and will run together with the event that has started for two days only.

ah ic, my mistake. I only skimmed through. thanks for the clarification.

what i dont get is why the hell our server has to mirror the japanese one ? They already did that and failed in PPS> literally 80% of the players that are on a day to day basis on this forum left the game because of a series of issues , with burnout after back to back events being one of the most important. In japan that is not an issue. It is here tho. Noot everything has to fit the original. Also , we don't want to max aff everything , but as a player with 2 accouns , 1 over 140 and a second one over 130 (that i made 2-3 weeks before the odette event) , both strong enough to get a perfect solano (so i invested a bit of time in them...just a bit ) , i can honestly tell you that even tho my second have way better units , including either better offense , like nanaly , or better gfarm units like cellia , most of my core team is not max affed. As i said , CORE team , simply becasue nutaku started releasing event after event after odette.

You'll get your breaks in the form of 1.5x drop rate on dailies/1.5 story drop rates/2x awaking orb drop rate events. These usually happen every ~2 months(so roughly 4-6 events in between them). If you're not a regular spender these events are a much better crystal investment for catching up your team than doing the gatcha. They usually do have revivals running at the same time so you'll still have to make a choice if you want to farm an old unit or revival crystals though.

Originally Posted by lolix

what i dont get is why the hell our server has to mirror the japanese one ? They already did that and failed in PPS> literally 80% of the players that are on a day to day basis on this forum left the game because of a series of issues.

You know, most people who quit PPS due to the constant event and burn out (including me) did so because PPS events are totally different. You need to stay glued to the computer if you want the better rewards. In Aigis you only have a set amount of resources and then you need to wait HOURS for them to replenish so the burn out strength of this game is definitely not as big. So while i understand that you want a break now and then, using PPS as an example really is horrible.

That said, i have heard that later on we will get many units that are not going to be the best ever, even Shiho was supposedly not that great. So it is probably a wise idea to just get enough to get those girls, 3star everything and then do whatever you want. So in this case i can actually support continual events. If an event pops up with a unit that is slightly worse in every aspect than some other unit, are you going to max her out? Are you going to max out those silver and gold rogues despite getting access to Cypria? It's pretty much the same deal and is what many of the #nobreak people have been trying to tell. That many events are skippable because the units are horrid so you can just focus on getting 3star and a copy of the unit then go back to dailies and aff grinds.

Yes i am definitely getting more and more onto the #nobreak side. Up til now most events have been great units with a lot of use but that will not always be the case in the future, which is why they suggest "skipping" events (3star + unit copy).

Edit:
To add to that, we know what units will come in the events and how good they will be since we are behind the japanese version. We basically live in the best of worlds (well, with the exception of no lolis) since the japanese will constantly have to guess if a new unit is good or not, while we get force fed that information before the event even begins :P

Originally Posted by lolix

what i dont get is why the hell our server has to mirror the japanese one ? They already did that and failed in PPS> literally 80% of the players that are on a day to day basis on this forum left the game because of a series of issues , with burnout after back to back events being one of the most important. In japan that is not an issue. It is here tho. Noot everything has to fit the original. Also , we don't want to max aff everything , but as a player with 2 accouns , 1 over 140 and a second one over 130 (that i made 2-3 weeks before the odette event) , both strong enough to get a perfect solano (so i invested a bit of time in them...just a bit ) , i can honestly tell you that even tho my second have way better units , including either better offense , like nanaly , or better gfarm units like cellia , most of my core team is not max affed. As i said , CORE team , simply becasue nutaku started releasing event after event after odette.

Yeah, it's such an awful thing that we're finally starting to mirror DMM's event schedule. The fact that Nutaku Aigis lost a decent amount of its community to DMM because we weren't getting any closer to DMM's later content, but instead getting further and further away means nothing to you, apparently. And it's totally not Nutaku's fault that you've apparently neglected to max affection your core team in the time that we had nothing but breaks. Jesus, can your arguments get any worse?

This is the result of playing on the DMM server for over a year: http://imgur.com/a/p4XKV

Playing through the DMM version with back-to-back events has never been a problem. I have missed some events as a new player, but I never complained about it and in the end I never needed those units at all nor do I feel like I missed anything.

@lolix
Do you seriously think you can get every single of these units to min-cost, max skill, and max affection/trust? That's impossible unless you spend a lot of SC during every event. Not every event unit I have is at min-cost nor do I plan on using all of them. There are some units that I stopped using even after class changing them and getting them to a high level. Kerry, the tutorial unit I got from the beginning, still has 0% affection.

Most of the SC I've used were for leveling up units I like and I want to use. I've also spent a lot of SC on farming for Demon Crystals because it costs 100 of them to awaken a week. You can't expect to do that every week without draining resources (silver units, gold, aw orbs, etc.). I can say for sure that I have spent over 50 SC farming Phalanx 2 and probably at least 100 SC farming Demon Crystals.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

Yeah, it's such an awful thing that we're finally starting to mirror DMM's event schedule. The fact that Nutaku Aigis lost a decent amount of its community to DMM because we weren't getting any closer to DMM's later content, but instead getting further and further away means nothing to you, apparently. And it's totally not Nutaku's fault that you've apparently neglected to max affection your core team in the time that we had nothing but breaks. Jesus, can your arguments get any worse?

I think you might have missed the point where i said that i started my SECOND account 2 weeks before odette's event ? Yeah , i generally did farmed and considering the short time span , i have a decently strong team. I think for a new account , being able to 3 star everything except flame beast X and mighty ogre X (because i needed a karma) is decent enough , and i think i managed my time and resources well enough considering the circumstances. That being said , i dare you to try making a new account and try to raise it a bit and see how it feels.

Edit exk , do you honestly feel that this server is ready for awakening ? Also , do you think there are people with the amount of financial resources to play that style ? Even if nutaku is here to make money . they can't cut out their f2p players entirely. That being said , i wasn't event talking about perfecting evenry unit. My first account has most units max aff-ed because of the break , with the sole exception of a cellia (which i got recently) , bashira , len and Lyn. The problem i was presenting was that newer players didn't got that break period to farm and stack those resources up. For example , i was so bored during the break , that i made an entirely different account 2 weeks before the odette event started. I managed to raise it fast and strong enough to get a cr 4 , skill 11 odette (and i'm a free player). That is to show that i'm not a slacker or fucked arround with my xp/gold/aff farming. Still , right now , i don't even have all my healers max aff-ed (i managed to get a fedora recently. I was running s7lvers untill now) , and my tank is still lvl 47 cced but at 50% aff. Bashira is at 0 aff , and katie is at 32%. Those are all core items....on a lvl 131 account. I'm not asking for perfect units all the time. But you guys don't realize that new players still need resources to grow and develop. Taking a week of break is hardly big enough disruption for people to get so pissed , and would indeed give newer players a chance to develop a bit. I mean , if the newbies are already behind the curve , and the events will only get harder and harder , it's obvious the newbies will give up. Older players quit all the time for various reasons , and newbies don't even try anymore becasue the server is so advanced. How do you maintain a player base like that ?