Thread: Looking for opinions on my new roster list.

Okay I just redid my planned harem army (because somethings seems wrong with the list I had written down). So... I want opinions! Especially since I have to take into account not getting 'Loli' units... Have no idea what to replace something with... Such as Eden that we likely aren't getting or Noel/Chloe who is in the same boat.

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Duelists


Healers


Physical Rear


Magical Rear


AoE Rear


Assist


Anti-Zerg


Anti-Rush


Tanks


Soldiers


Supports


Anti-Swarm



So this is my extended army. If you want to know how it is sorted... well I'll just list here instead of trying to send you somewhere, where it is listed.

4+: Duelists: Bandit, Valkyrie, Princess, Dragon Officer, Avenger, Angel, Dragon Rider, Vampire Princess, Immortal Princess, Puppet User, Vampire Lord, Royal Guard, Hermit, Majin
3-7: Healers: Healer, Priest Warrior, Feng Shui User, Dragon Shaman
2-6: Physical Rear: Archer, Ranger, Pirate, Vampire Hunter, Merchant
2-6: Magical Rear: Witch, Shaman, Chrono Witch, Necromancer, Onmyoji, Druid, Monster User, Dark Priest
2-5: AoE Rear: Mage, Bishop, Cannoneer, Summoner
2-4: Assist: Ninja, Magic Swordsman, Sailor, Bow Rider
2-4: Anti-Zerg(Min cost required): Bronze Soldiers, Bronze Dragon Officers, Silver Soldiers that are not class changed
2-4: Anti-Rush: Rogue, Monk, Yoko
2-4: Tanks: Heavy Armor, Dragon Warrior, Dark Fighter, Mage Armor
2: Soldiers
1-4: Supports: Advance Guard, Rear Guard, Dancer, Maid, Parliamentary Secretary, Alchemist, Thief, Curse User, Enchanter
1-4: Anti-Swarm: Samurai, Pegasus Rider, Sword Master

So besides any opinions you want to give. I have to ask should I run more witches seeing as quite a lot of 'Magical Rear' classes have 'loli' units for event units or are just black rarity only. In total that would be two more witches. I'd add another Shaman instead of two witches, but we won't get Kagura due to Noel(well most likely).

I already plan to place Uzume, Jessica, and Agnes in my 'Luck List' the units I'll spend SC on, but I'm not sure if there is anything else I really want to put there.

Originally Posted by Samyy

where is charlotte ?

Horace has that spot.

Missing units from my wish list except GR units are below.
Eden and Memento are absolutely required for later missions, and cannot play any more without implementing the alternative units.
(If you have some black units, no problem. And no chance for me)
Chloe,Noel,Franc,Nagi and Liana are highly required. (Liana is in 'premium summon', but...)

I'm using Eliza,Cloris,Calliope,Nenya as Magical Rear in JP version, but no problem until now. (Planing to get Ryuryu additionally)
I planned to get Kagura in EN version, too. But I'm thinking I can wait until Eliza...

I hope Nagi. She is great as 'Duelists'!

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Missing units from my wish list except GR units are below.
Eden and Memento are absolutely required for later missions, and cannot play any more without implementing the alternative units.
(If you have some black units, no problem. And no chance for me)
Chloe,Noel,Franc,Nagi and Liana are highly required. (Liana is in 'premium summon', but...)

Doubt we would get Memento or Eden with the way 'lolis' are going. Chloe and Noel are in that box as well. Franc... well I have Elizabeth so... as for Nagi I don't think she is needed, but she is a black unit so I'll probably get a perfect one from her event regardless. Liana... I doubt we will get her event because she is a premium unit for us so... sigh...

Noobie questions:

1)Can you explain to me the difference between anti-zerg, anti-rush and anti-swarm?
2)Can rogue be used as a duelist? I used to think that rogue was a duelist and sometimes they seem to outlive bandit

i just wonder why puppet master is in duelist, she can not be heal so it is like being used once and dispose right away

Originally Posted by Slurpee

Noobie questions:

1)Can you explain to me the difference between anti-zerg, anti-rush and anti-swarm?
2)Can rogue be used as a duelist? I used to think that rogue was a duelist and sometimes they seem to outlive bandit

Anti-Rush: Refers to units of three separate roles with similar jobs. The first is the name sake of this tag Anti-Rush units. They deal with units that love to rush in one by one. They normally have fast attacks speeds.
The second is Anti-Swarm units. They deal with units that come in large groups that need to be dealt with, and would normally otherwise just leak by as they are not killed fast enough or blocked.
The third is Anti-Zerg these are units specifically meant to deal with rushing swarms early in maps when unit points are tight.
^from class and army guide.

Rogue can potentially be used as duelist but only for weak bosses. a black oni will squash a rogue flat if evade doesn't activate.

Puppet master is kind of a duelist because "Duelist: Refers to a unit that are meant to fight in multiple 1v1 fights and in some cases 1v2/1v3 fights. However they may be able to kill enemies fast enough to serve in an Anti-Rush role."
They fight multiple 1v1 and can activate skill just before dying to deal even more dmg before you have to withdraw. I personally feel they're more of a bomb, but think of it this way: not only do puppet masters have high stats to make up for their inability to be healed, they are also like karma which can't be healed yet serves as a duelist role, primarily at spots far away from healers. They're more of a ganker that needs to be placed ahead of time to get some time to activate skill I guess.

Originally Posted by namhoang909

i just wonder why puppet master is in duelist, she can not be heal so it is like being used once and dispose right away

because 'Gankers' weren't given their own slot and fill in with duelist over anything else. Though one can argue she could fit in the 'assist' slot, but that would just be wasting her defensive stats.

Originally Posted by soranokira

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You assessment would be correct on my thoughts.

Originally Posted by Samyy

lafate chan where is imelia out there ? or she is loli too ?

Imeria is the 4th icon from left side on the top line (Duelists).

as for Nagi I don't think she is needed, but she is a black unit so I'll probably get a perfect one from her event regardless.

I've been helped by her as anti-Daemon. Lucille and Elva are suitable ordinaly, but Nagi is the extra low cost. Sometimes Gray Daemon appears in early timing. Nagi makes much easy at such a cost sensitive map with her instant skill.

@poortroopers

Good job using lower level units for the first 3 event maps by the way on your youtube.
Us Noobies appreciate it.

Although I should be all lvl 50 by the next event but there will probably always be new noobies

edit: although lvl 50 is still pretty noobie >_<