Thread: Ninja Army of Darkness Guide

Originally Posted by soranokira

your failure to understand how the game mechanics work make me unable to see how you can possibly carry on following these guide videos. you're not even trying to understand what happens at every point in time and why the units are placed the way they are.

i just read and find out lich will attack unit placed last, so only one question left, why my 2 mages can not handle big trolls fast enough

Originally Posted by namhoang909

i just read and find out lich will attack unit placed last, so only one question left, why my 2 mages can not handle big trolls fast enough

no idea why your mages couldnt kill the old man mage within 2 hits, allowing him to blast your units twice. try using a better mage. also, more importantly, his phyllis was 100% aff and your phyllis obviously has 0. I saw your phyllis with only 220+ def while etheternal's vid has phyllis at 308 def. (all with prince buff)

next time, don't only look at unit levels. you're doing nothing but following blindly. look at the stats of the units in the video and compare them to your own. you can easily see stats when the video clicks on the unit to withdraw or to use a skill (have to calculate their stats by 100/119 or 100/121 when prince is deployed in the video)

You need to learn to be flexible and see for yourself what you're doing wrong vs what happens at that point in the guide video. sometimes, deploy stronger units than in the video (or weaker ones, for lower cost to manage cost issues) so that things are easier, and so on.

You deployed Eunice too late, which means liches fired a free round to your Alyssa. That ruined the target priority of all your healers and your timings with deployments as well. That's why liches slowly started destroying your army, one by one. Losing Katie fairly early on is not an issue since you had enough UP to take on the liches. The problem with that map is that completing it with those units is like cooking a good dish: you have to be methodic and spot on with your decisions. One mistake, and your plan will be ruined as you saw.

3 mages can wipe the bulk of enemies that come before the liches. You have to focus on deployment and withdrawal to keep those pesky liches entertained with beefy units. Your Alyssa can take up to 2 shots, but not more than that. On the mages: we would need to know their affection aside from the level. Male units tend to have better base stats but less trust growth, while females have worse base stats but better affection growth. The reason why Eth uses 3 Valeries is to use their skill to quickly clean the clusterfuck at the end and focus on dealing with these liches as fast as possible.

Originally Posted by soranokira

no idea why your mages couldnt kill the old man mage within 2 hits, allowing him to blast your units twice. try using a better mage. also, more importantly, his phyllis was 100% aff and your phyllis obviously has 0. I saw your phyllis with only 220+ def while etheternal's vid has phyllis at 308 def. (all with prince buff)

next time, don't only look at unit levels. you're doing nothing but following blindly. look at the stats of the units in the video and compare them to your own. you can easily see stats when the video clicks on the unit to withdraw or to use a skill (have to calculate their stats by 100/119 or 100/121 when prince is deployed in the video)

You need to learn to be flexible and see for yourself what you're doing wrong vs what happens at that point in the guide video. sometimes, deploy stronger units than in the video (or weaker ones, for lower cost to manage cost issues) so that things are easier, and so on.

ok i'll check stat in that video again, i use phyllis mostly for the spirit rescue h that's why i didn't think about her aff
another thing cuterie can not be deployed in sky fallen gift so only challenge quest or maybe if lucky event right?

Originally Posted by Askeladd

You deployed Eunice too late, which means liches fired a free round to your Alyssa. That ruined the target priority of all your healers and your timings with deployments as well. That's why liches slowly started destroying your army, one by one. Losing Katie fairly early on is not an issue since you had enough UP to take on the liches. The problem with that map is that completing it with those units is like cooking a good dish: you have to be methodic and spot on with your decisions. One mistake, and your plan will be ruined as you saw.

3 mages can wipe the bulk of enemies that come before the liches. You have to focus on deployment and withdrawal to keep those pesky liches entertained with beefy units. Your Alyssa can take up to 2 shots, but not more than that. On the mages: we would need to know their affection aside from the level. Male units tend to have better base stats but less trust growth, while females have worse base stats but better affection growth. The reason why Eth uses 3 Valeries is to use their skill to quickly clean the clusterfuck at the end and focus on dealing with these liches as fast as possible.

i am not good at dealing with number, when they come that many and so strong i feel terrified so best strategy to me is the one that i don't need to change unit so much in short time and looks like only platinum battle master with platinum healer can make it

Cuterie can apply her passive by just being in the team. You don't need to deploy her.

As for Immortal Beast just give it a try every once in a while and focus on those quick switches and when do enemies appear. Learn the visual hints and you will slowly get the gist of it and get better at dealing with these situations. Also, as soranokira said, up that Phyllis affection to 100%.

Originally Posted by Askeladd

Cuterie can apply her passive by just being in the team. You don't need to deploy her.

As for Immortal Beast just give it a try every once in a while and focus on those quick switches and when do enemies appear. Learn the visual hints and you will slowly get the gist of it and get better at dealing with these situations. Also, as soranokira said, up that Phyllis affection to 100%.

you guys really make a good point I checked apparently my cced 50 pallis has less damage, could it be different in damage when cc i mean my cc-ed pallis after minus 51 damage bonus by aff, she has only 341 instead of 350 and only mistake i've made is with allisa when cc-ed her at 31
and for the stage since one of my healer not function very well could it be compensated by gold and 1 silver with 100% aff, Eth has his Leeanne with 1.4 def increase when activate, mine only 1.2 if it's not i will try with my bernice and dragon princess shaman, both have higher cost especially the dragon shaman

no pallis has 341 i just look at comment

Pallis is superior to Valerie when you need that extra push in dps with her active. Other than that, Valerie should be your go-to unit in these situations. Being a male unit means that he will probably have better base stats (my 50cc50 Valerie has almost 550 ATK with max lvl Prince + Savior title iirc) and he is superior in this map because his skill allows him to clean bigger waves faster (and you also have a Barbie, which is essentially an upgraded Valerie).

Bernice is a really good choice and you won't regret it. You can manage these additional costs by making sure Katie stays alive after the Troll gank squad so she can pop up an extra skill for +15 UP. Remember that Echidna has a bit less range than normal healers. Take that into consideration when planning to deploy her.