Thread: At this point, I am no longer surprised

Oh look, he's ignoring my posts again.

It's pretty clear that this is just about you and you're only trying to pass it off as being thoughtful of newbies to justify yourself.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

Oh look, he's ignoring my posts again.

It's pretty clear that this is just about you and you're only trying to pass it off as being thoughtful of newbies to justify yourself.

He's talking. ok

Well, there's no point in responding to you seriously anymore if you won't reciprocate.

Just know that your stance is complete garbage if you can't bother to justify yourself at this point.

no. You're just disregarding it , without realizing yours is just as bad. It's literally the other side of the coin. You're talking veterans , i'm talking newbies. Both are part of the playerbase , and no matter what your opinion is , i do believe that games like this shouldn't have a high entry level. Seeing that dmm also has breaks with increase droprates means that the japan version realized that breaks from time to time are important...and they even give increase drop rates in them. What does this say ? Other then the fact that they realize that people need time to farm xp/aff items i mean. Why does dmm gives weeks with increase drop rates if breaks aren't needed ?
That , and you're calling me selfish , when i was the one that literally said from the start that the last 2 breaks benefited me , so it's not like i fucking acted like a hypocrite , like others are , covering what i say by saying that it benefits the majority.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

You still haven't addressed why newbies can't take breaks during star/collection events, or why you even need a week to do a day of catching up.
(Protip: affection is not something you need to max ASAP).

Seriously, your argument essentially boils down to "the devs are tools because they won't let newbie/free players have as big of a stockpile as veteran/paying players". I don't need to say how ridiculous that sounds.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

Show me a game that lets newbies accomplish in a week what veterans take at least a month to do. Aigis gives newbies a lot of breathing room already, but you want the devs to give you all the time in the world at the expense of everyone else. There's no reasoning with you.

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I'm still trying to figure out how missing out on a few event units is supposed to be so crippling to new players in the first place. The first couple event maps are always piss easy, sacred crystals are better than nothing and it's not like events lock you out of Low Cost Battle, so seriously, what's the problem? The only event units that inspire any real jealousy from me so far are Belinda and Karma. They're nice units, sure, but Belinda's mostly good for War of Magic and Karma's a specialist unit that basically gets you an extra star or two once every blue moon when an event features Black Oni or some such. And you know what? More events would be helpful in letting me stockpile SCs for the day their revivals hit.

1. And who said that we can't take breaks during star events ? read my first fucking post on the ninja guide. I said that after gold rushes , or star events , breaks are pretty much pointless. Show me when i said otherwise , or show me what gave you the ideea that i thought that we can't use star events as breaks.

2. When did i said that the game needs to lets newbies be equals to veterans ? I didn't. I said that newbs need to have the entry bar set lower , and that they need breaks from time to time to raise their teams or aff their units without having to chose between dailies or events. It would be ridiculous to even consider this issue. Dunno what am i expecting of you anyway at this point tho...

Originally Posted by kayfabe

I'm still trying to figure out how missing out on a few event units is supposed to be so crippling to new players in the first place. The first couple event maps are always piss easy, sacred crystals are better than nothing and it's not like events lock you out of Low Cost Battle, so seriously, what's the problem? The only event units that inspire any real jealousy from me so far are Belinda and Karma. They're nice units, sure, but Belinda's mostly good for War of Magic and Karma's a specialist unit that basically gets you an extra star or two once every blue moon when an event features Black Oni or some such. And you know what? More events would be helpful in letting me stockpile SCs for the day their revivals hit.

Because entitlement.

Though I do feel for people who missed out on Aria.

Originally Posted by lolix

1. And who said that we can't take breaks during star events ? read my first fucking post on the ninja guide. I said that after gold rushes , or star events , breaks are pretty much pointless. Show me when i said otherwise , or show me what gave you the ideea that i thought that we can't use star events as breaks.

2. When did i said that the game needs to lets newbies be equals to veterans ? I didn't. I said that newbs need to have the entry bar set lower , and that they need breaks from time to time to raise their teams or aff their units without having to chose between dailies or events. It would be ridiculous to even consider this issue. Dunno what am i expecting of you anyway at this point tho...

1. Because the opposite side of this is that you're lobbying for breaks after 3-4 back-to-back farming events, which has currently NEVER happened. If the star/collection breaks are there, and you still want more breaks, you're purposely ignoring my arguments for the sake of it.

2. And literally everyone in this thread is telling you that the choice is supposed to be there because that's how the game is supposed to work. Players that want to do more need to spend SC or suck it up. Period.

Originally Posted by kayfabe

I'm still trying to figure out how missing out on a few event units is supposed to be so crippling to new players in the first place. The first couple event maps are always piss easy, sacred crystals are better than nothing and it's not like events lock you out of Low Cost Battle, so seriously, what's the problem? The only event units that inspire any real jealousy from me so far are Belinda and Karma. They're nice units, sure, but Belinda's mostly good for War of Magic and Karma's a specialist unit that basically gets you an extra star or two once every blue moon when an event features Black Oni or some such. And you know what? More events would be helpful in letting me stockpile SCs for the day their revivals hit.

the first maps also have a drop rate under 10% so good luck there. Also there are a crapload of good units that could cripple a team that misses them in future events , considering our version of the game has a lot of missing units. Imagine starting a new acount now , and having a team without belinda , aria , anya , karma , marribel , odette , solano , horus , and so on. Unless you're a p2w player , not having those can cripple you , unless ofc , you're willing to invest money , or get really damn lucky in summoning. So let's not act like event units are piss poor now. Sure , the past couple events were not that important , and skipping things like azami is easy , but considering that new players might not know which is good and which is not , they might get fucked over.

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Originally Posted by Eab1990

Because entitlement.

Though I do feel for people who missed out on Aria.



1. Because the opposite side of this is that you're lobbying for breaks after 3-4 back-to-back farming events, which has currently NEVER happened. If the star/collection breaks are there, and you still want more breaks, you're purposely ignoring my arguments for the sake of it.

2. And literally everyone in this thread is telling you that the choice is supposed to be there because that's how the game is supposed to work. Players that want to do more need to spend SC or suck it up. Period.

So , we're ignoring the fact that dmm gives breaks with increase drop rates then ? Why do they do it then ?

Regarding the low drop rate, here's another post you failed to address.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

Newbies shouldn't be diving straight into an event from the start to begin with. Doesn't mean they're actually barred from it.

There's a difference between being newbie-friendly and walling newbies from new content. You're suggesting it's the latter and want it to be more like the former. I'm suggesting that it's only the former, assuming the player actually does research (and the player isn't super-unlucky to never get a drop).

The difference is that making the game too newbie-friendly dumbs down the entire game. If all events were as mind-numbingly easy as the gold rush (sans Bernice's map), we'd have a lot more problems with the fundamentals of the game.

Btw, I'm pretty sure you're playing down the RNG. I got 10 copies of the event unit solely doing map 4, and on previous events, I know a handful of people who could only afford to farm the lower maps and usually still get by with at least one copy. It's far from impossible, especially if you can run the lower maps twice as much as the higher maps. Yeah, they'll obviously get less copies than if they were able to do the later maps, but getting a single copy over the course of a week? That's not a tall order.

Also, with the exception of Maribel (who can be replaced with the Bernice that most people should have gotten from this past gold rush), Karma, and maybe Odette since Cyrus can be lacking, none of those units are essential for F2P users with the events we've had right now. (Solano is amazing though.)

Originally Posted by lolix

So , we're ignoring the fact that dmm gives breaks with increase drop rates then ? Why do they do it then ?

Are you illiterate, or did you miss the post that addressed that?

http://harem-battle.club/millennium-...html#post15623