Thread: Some questions

i disagree sora. Sure , adele is good , but she's not a needed unit. It would be like a newbie getting jeromme on his first draws. Ofc jerome is a great pick up , but not really needed since we have katie. And katie can perform just as good untill a very long way into the game. Its the same thing with cloris and adele.
Actually , on my second acount , were i didnt passed the wall of magic , i would chose a yuyu over adele any day. She gets good base attack for being an elf (she rivals belinda , with just single digits less attack) and she gets the range necesary to be usefull in war of magic.


From this point of view , adele , is really not that great of a pick up for a starter.

Lolwut, that's a bad example. Jerome is a hell of a starter draw. Hell, even Julian is a great starter. Two gold+ soldiers are better than one in this case, especially since newbies won't have Aria or be able to mincost Julian.

A better example would be someone like Gina. A great unit in a niche class that doesn't become amazing until AW.

At any rate, witches are always good to have, but I'd also prioritize Yuyu over Adele first.

again , i disagree. First of all , cc-ing plats is an expensive deal , and unless he really needs a plat soldier cc-ed , katie is by far a better/cheaper choice. Also , wasting resources for 2 soldiers is pointless , seeing as just 1 is enough for most maps (untill now i never even had a need for another cc-ed soldier - even for a phyliss) , when he could cc an archer , or a healer or a heavy instead. Building a core team fast is better then cc-ing and raising multiple units of the same class , as a newbie

@sora i would argue that there are plenty of good units that are good to have both early AND late game. Getting a bernice is good. Getting a plat mage is good. getting a camilla is good. Getting any black not named clissa is good (and even clissa is a very good duelist) , and so on. There are plenty of units that are good both early and late

Jerome doesn't even need to be CC'd to be useful. I didn't even level Julian for a long time, but I still got way more mileage out of him at base level than I ever got with Phyllis.

Some people even hold off on CC'ing Jerome because his skill doesn't change. It's not until AW that he makes up for his increased cost. He's still amazing to have.

And maybe you don't need two soldiers, but having that much more UP at the start gives you a lot more breathing room for any map that isn't a rush map. Not sure why this is even a point to debate. Any amount of time/resources spent on soldiers isn't really wasteful. Most of them should only be sturdy enough to handle goblin/wolf rushes long enough to get their skill ready, which both Julian and Jerome can do without dedicating too much time to them.

obviously , but it doesn't change the fact that there are way better units to get at the begining. I guess i have higher expectations since my first summons were camilla on 1 account and nanaly on the the other , but i think getting adele at the begining was quite unlucky

Originally Posted by lolix

obviously , but it doesn't change the fact that there are way better units to get at the begining. I guess i have higher expectations since my first summons were camilla on 1 account and nanaly on the the other , but i think getting adele at the begining was quite unlucky

I find it unnecessary because my 1st 5 summons were 5 silvers. it was only like 3~4 weeks into the game before I rolled another 5 and got decent ones (lilia, hina, themis and iris)
you can live w/o rerolling. getting anything else is lucky enough.

Lolix is right, i'have made a bad decision to spend all sc at witch event, i just ONLY wanted the black healer, i thought 40sc is a big amount and i could get her but as you can see its not so this acc is my learning run and i will use all scs on other at an useful event which dont have same classes with cloris katie bashira etc.

well not necesarily a bad decision , and as other said , there is no point in reroling just for that. But seeing as your account has only 1 week , you can easily make another and hope at better - especially since you're a free player , and you will rarely have the amount of scs to spend as you will at the begining for premium summons

Originally Posted by ramazan

Lolix is right, i'have made a bad decision to spend all sc at witch event, i just ONLY wanted the black healer, i thought 40sc is a big amount and i could get her but as you can see its not so this acc is my learning run and i will use all scs on other at an useful event which dont have same classes with cloris katie bashira etc.

for the record, the average SCs needed to roll a black is 168.
also the black healer atm is not actually all that great for a newbie. her high cost makes iris generally more useful to place than her, since you rarely need such a strong healer early on. it's only when you get strong units with high hp and def tanking hard hitting bosses and/or multiple relatively hard hitting mobs that strong heals actually come into play.

Originally Posted by lolix

obviously , but it doesn't change the fact that there are way better units to get at the begining. I guess i have higher expectations since my first summons were camilla on 1 account and nanaly on the the other , but i think getting adele at the begining was quite unlucky

Camilla at the start isn't really necessary since all newbies get Iris now. By the time Camilla is necessary, a player should have several healers leveled by then.

Nanaly is obviously on her own tier, and again, newbies get Bashira instead of Kerry now, so it's still a non-issue.

The only other units a newbie should prioritize at the start are soldiers, witches, heavies, and a duelist like a princess. A better witch than Cloris (Yuyu/Adele) or a better heavy than Leanne (Bernice) is great to have. A soldier that can come out cheaper than Katie is amazing.

Really, the only objectively better units you can pull out of premium at the start are either black units or princesses. And maybe girls like Hina.

You want to talk unlucky? Getting Cypria in premium twice, or getting Dahlia when you have better duelists.