Thread: Sengoku Providence announced!

Originally Posted by Corintis

Oh my freaking gawd, shoot me that's embarrassing; what is 65 points and what is stamina
That's only half needed to reach the 500k mark and barely 70% to break even at 400k.

(looks for a method to raise the average from 65 to 100 to make everything good again)

Frankly speaking I have no idea how you reached that 1200 points per 100 stamina in your calculations hehe .

You get probably 95 on average in 35 stamina maps, but that is 3 runs per bonus stage and end result of 885 points per 105 stamina, so not really better.

And there is a hidden error in my calculations in post above. I divided 1620 stamina needed after passive regeneration by 6.(3) multiplayer, but with such high stamina caps and 16h day cycle, you have only 8h left to regenerate while sleeping - that limits us to 160 stamina for night and not full cap, which cuts the multiplayer. Proper way should be then 1938 stamina minus whole day of regeneration a.k.a. 480. This leaves us with 1458 stamina to be divided by 5.(3) magma only multiplayer. And our end result is 273.4 stamina per magas refill, assuming you get +1 to stamina bar per each level up, with 81 max stamina I have on 37 level, you would need to be 230 level to be able to do this event with 160 magas burned on the way.

Frankly without magas its impossible to do. With 480 stamina per day and few level ups you would reach maybe up to 16k stamina over the whole event. 500k/16k = 31.25 points per stamina needed, or 3125 points per 100 - so as long as bonus stages don't give nearly 3k or 5 times more they give now, you wont be able to do this event without money/stored magas.

With level/cap like mine and 400 stamina average per day I have 12k stamina to spent over the event. With the 8.6 points per stamina based on your average values, I can reach up to 103k points without spending magas and not really much better if I used the few magas I have. So I should be able to reach to the second girl. But that is it.

So this is an event that requires you to spend way more than you can earn from it? Not even break even? I just hope that not all event will look like this, but if they will then I am pretty sure that I am going to quit it sooner than later.

Meh, only really interesting thing for non-paying players there is free TW-capable 5* at 100k mark, so best to aim there and just accept whatever you'd get on top of it in the end.

Originally Posted by Eversor86

Frankly speaking I have no idea how you reached that 1200 points per 100 stamina in your calculations hehe .

I'm a bit confounded myself
First, I accidentally swapped the 65-point average with 100 stamina, so it came to 1000 points per 100 stamina. Then, I multiplied that by 12 resets to get the 12k daily points. And SOMEHOW, I dumbed it down even further by averaging it out to that magical 1200 points per 100 stamina, wtf?

You'll need at least 130 base stamina to break close to even at 400k event points and 175+ stamina to clear the whole 500k points, unless we could find a way to raise the point average. But otherwise, it's a very dumb, inefficient event.

To get Yodo, that'll be 3334 points a day. With 480 passive regeneration a day, that's something everybody could do.

Originally Posted by ZeroZet

Meh, only really interesting thing for non-paying players there is free TW-capable 5* at 100k mark, so best to aim there and just accept whatever you'd get on top of it in the end.

Only problem is, for non-paying players who didn't store any magas or have low level/stamina cap, or don't have time to play each few hours to utilize as much passive regeneration as possible, even reaching that 100k mark will be hard.

Originally Posted by Corintis

You'll need at least 130 base stamina to break close to even at 400k event points and 175+ stamina to clear the whole 500k points, unless we could find a way to raise the point average.

400k points is 13.(3)k points per day. 500k points is 16.(6)k points per day.
Assuming you will use only 165 free magas you get from rewards you have 5.5 magas per day.
Assuming you need high enough stamina cap we can use 480 stamina per day you will regenerate sleeping/playing which is 14.4k stamina total over 30 days.
With that 860 points per 100 stamina you mentioned (4 games with 65 average and 600 per bonus map spawned with it) we get 8.6 points/stamina ratio.
With that 14.4k stamina you would then get close to 124k points over whole event from passive regeneration, you need then:
276k points more which is 9.2k points per day to hit 400k, which is 1070 stamina (9.2k/8.6) per day, which with 5.5 magas per day means you need to have a 195 stamina cap.
376k points more which is 12.5(3)k points per day to hit 500k, which is 1458 stamina (12,5(3)k/8.6), which with 5.5 magas per day means you need to have a 265 stamina cap.

Originally Posted by Corintis

To get Yodo, that'll be 3334 points a day. With 480 passive regeneration a day, that's something everybody could do.

Yeah. 100k points is 3334 points a day. Which with 8.6 ratio means 388 stamina per day burned. But just to add - you can have 480 stamina per day from passive regeneration if you don't sleep, or have high enough stamina cap (at least 160 to sleep 8h ).

Originally Posted by ZeroZet

Meh, only really interesting thing for non-paying players there is free TW-capable 5* at 100k mark, so best to aim there and just accept whatever you'd get on top of it in the end.

That's my end goal! Although I am not sure I will achieve it on normal regen. If all dailies are done I guess that's one Maga to burn per days allowing for another run plus leveling up. Hmmm need to do some calculations of my own.

Okay, I went to the trouble of borrowing a relative's 4G connection in order to take a peek at this event.

...It doesn't seem all that different from the way Japanese events are handled, to be honest.

Note that some youkai are worth more points than others:

Enma Daio: 10 points
Hihi: 15 points
Daikokuten: 30 points
Shuten Douji: 70 points

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...These connection timeout errors are really annoying...

Hm, are youkai that are at the end of their own daily maps generate points same way youkai added at the beginning do? Meaning, can you spam, say, Shuten Douji's daily for additional 70 points per?

Originally Posted by ZeroZet

Hm, are youkai that are at the end of their own daily maps generate points same way youkai added at the beginning do? Meaning, can you spam, say, Shuten Douji's daily for additional 70 points per?

From what I've read, no.

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There's a feature I read about that I think might be implemented already:

Each day a random story mode map will have its stamina usage halved until the next day. If it's active here, then that provides another option for farming these "invading" youkai.

Originally Posted by Skulkraken

Each day a random story mode map will have its stamina usage halved until the next day. If it's active here, then that provides another option for farming these "invading" youkai.

Halved cost of a story stage was on since day one I think. Never knew if its random, or what, cause most times I saw it on it was dark or light stages. But that is it, its for story stages, not event stages - thus doesn't help us, cause at least from what I understand only stamina burned on event maps works.