Thread: HBC's FKG 6* Tier List

What i think about Cactus:

Stats:
Her HP is definetely on the lower end of the Spectrum. That's somewhat compensated by her amazing Defense Stat of 3516. Her Atk however is low compared to most other Rainbows. 7372 Atk. isn't really good for High-Offensive Ability-Sets like hers.

Verdict: C-Tier

Skill Act. Chance and Skill Damage:

Holy Moly and all that Jazz. 36 % Skill Act. Chance on Level 1, 46% Skill Act. Chance on Level 5. In the right team you don't even have to feed her a single Skill Bloom if you don't want to. That's really n1 since usually you get only one Skill Bloom each month.

She deals 5x to one enemy (it was 4x before that). That recent buff is really good for her especially due to the fact that she is able to attack twice in one round.

Verdict: That section is amazing. I have to give S-Tier here. Like i did in my Red Ginger vote.

Abilities:

Increases Attack Power for party members by 22%. A little bit above Average. Solid, not spectacular.

Increases Shine Crystal Drop Rates by 30%. Here we go again. One of my most hated Abilities at this rate. Why have so many girls who are dedicated to another archetype and have nothing to do with Solar Blast this Crystal Drop Ability??? And it's not even 50% but only 30%.
A gimmick Ability. Nothing more, nothing less.

Increases Critical Activation Rate for Party Members by 15%. 20% is Standard. So it's a little bit lower than average but not that big of a deal. You can compensate for it fairly easy. You can only reach 80% Crit Chance anyway. Should be easy to reach the cap with your other 4 party members.

After attacking an enemy, there's a 60% chance to act again (I call this Double Strike from now on). Here we go. That and the Ability after this one are one of her Main Selling Points. 60% chance to inflict x10 damage to one enemy in 1 turn. Yes Please!!!

There are four different types of Double Strike Girls:

1. First Turn Nukers like Dendrobium. This type always attack twice on the first turn. Guaranteed. But only on the first turn.
2. Girls with a 40% chance to attack again on every turn
3. Girls with a 50% chance to attack again on every turn
4. Girls like Cactus with a 60% chance to attack again on every turn.

60 % is obviously the best and it's rare. Right of the bat i don't exactly know how many of her type exist. But it's only a few.

Increases Critical Damage for party members by 40%. Really Really n1. Imagine 5 Crit Girls with that buff. 200% Crit Damage. It's possible.

Verdict: Despite the fact that her Crystal Drop Ability is semi-useless her other Abilities are either solid or kick ass. A-

Teambuilding options: Obviously she works best in a Crit Squad. She can deal insane amount of Damage there.
She also performs fine in Double Strike Squads and Old School Skill.Act.Squads.

Final Verdict: I waver between B+ and A-. Due to the fact that we put Dendrobium in A-Tier and i genuinely think that Cactus outperforms her in Damage i will vote for A-Tier

So it's Saboten turn next. It's will be a couple more until I can give verdict from experience so for now... paper only again.

Saboten is the girl who got lots of rebuff through out the course of the game lifetime. Back then she seriously lacking in many departments that she was branded 'meh' as no one really thrilling getting her. I don't know how things are in Nutaku for her now but in DMM as is now? I think Saboten is one of the most powerful boss killer in the game, that is if under correct composition and support. Now let's take a look at her, the girl who is calm and cool as freezer outside but has a burning passionate inside. (Or as she claimed)

1. Raw stat: Noting so exciting except for her defense. 3500+def is definitely high end and it will help her a lot if she ever gets counter and while her HP is on a low side, she won't fall down TOO quick. (Emphasis on 'too' as she got zero survival ability) The worst part though, is her atk which is low for total offense oriented character. Such a shame...
Grading: C

2. Skill: Sabouten has the highest skill activation at 46% top. Even at lv.1 her rate is similar or even surpass the majority of the girls at 36%. The damage after the latest buff is awesome 5x. Considered how low her atk is this skill is godsend to help Saboten goes 'ORAORAORA' on pests. Combined with her abilities and Saboten has chance to dish out 10x on enemy every turn. And well... what to say besides YES?
Grading: S

3. Abilities: Her atk buff is nothing to say much, 20% buff is very average but definitely not bad. Crit chance and crit damage duo are always needed synergy for crit team. 15% chance is tad low but considered that crit chance capped at 80% and girls with crit buff is like, lying around everywhere now, it's so easy to form a team. 40% crit damage is currently at top game and definitely welcome since this one doesn't have max capped.
The real juicy part of her is the 60% chance to double act. Like I said in skill part, her low atk got covered by this awesome skill+ability synergy. It's 5x at worst and 10x at best when she's under enough skill act boost, and it's much easier than most girls with her high natural skill act rate. Her best spot in the team is obviously the back, or at least after sweeper.
Then there's a completely gimmick part that I don't know why it's here. 30% shine crystal drop rate plus for team is nothing amazing and it's not even worked for whaleship, only for party Sabouten is in. At least her attack got many hits so it generate lots of shine crystals but well... it's nothing to be excited and there's a lots of abilities that would aid her better. One step short from perfection.
Grading: A-

Final verdict: Saboten is strong girl with beastly skill and a great ability to sync with that. She is, however, very dependent for support whether it's atk buff, damage buff, skill activation, or crit to function properly as boss killer. 10x damage is sometimes inconsistent with 60% chance to dish this amazing damage out. Once you geared her properly however, not many bosses can withstand her oraora onslaught. So here, A for her deeds. A little bit to A- side since she needed lots of supports and can't carry the team alone though.

Extra: Not much to say about her, I like her for her skill animation mostly rather than any waifu factors. So well, this is the first thing comes to my mind when seeing her skill.

Cactus. One of the few 6* I have, but on Nutaku.

Stats:
HP: How can I say that... even 5* have more HP than her. Even the thiniestglass has more HP.
ATK: Just like HP. Her ATK stat is depper than Lotus Lake abysses.
DEF: That's a good stat, but with her bad HP it's not useful.

Skill
x5 damages to one enemy with 46% skill act.
x5 damages with 46% skill act.
46% skill act. I'm pretty sure it's the best skill chance of every girls in the game. Just add a little x1.2 skill act girl and she is over 50% skill activation chances.
With x5 damages on one enemy, that's very good.

Abilities
Increases Shine Crystal drop rates for all by 30%.
Just no. Even worse than Cattleya Solar Gauge ability. BUT, that bad ability is usefull for the incomming stuff.

+20% ATK for all
Not the higest buff in the game but it's decent at least. Not good, not bad. It can help the other girls but with her low ATK, it's not that good on herself. But it helps anyway since she will be an hyper offensive girl.

Crit Rate +15% & Crit Damages +40%
The Crit Rate buff is good but not that good but Crit Damage buff is really nice. But she may need other Crit allies to be a solid Crit girl. I mean, she is very solid but with some Crit Chance buf support.

60% chance to Act Again.
Re-act girls are so underestimated. It's a rare and broken ability, espacially on girls like Cactus. 60% is the best chance of react in the game (just behind the 100% but turn 1 only). And THAT'S her hidden trump card.
Without it, she is just a good offensive 6* with high skill chance. With this ability, she is like TWO good offensive 6* with high skill chance, 60% of the time.
Now, use her with the right allies (with Crit,skill act and damages buff) and she will be a monster.
Even a 5* with re-act can be very good if she re-act. A 6* like Cactus with all her assets is just OP.


Conclusion
Despite her poor stats (espacially ATK) and that bad Crystal Drop ability, she has an awesome skill+skill act and a good set of abilities.
Like I said earlier, Crystal Drop help her a lot. Not by itself but it's bad enough to allow her a lo of other abilities to balance it. I'm sure if she had something better, she would not have Crit or the Re-act. And she would be... just good.
That Re-act just make all for her. She can do her job twice ahd she do it well. Her recent Skill damage boost make her even better.
If she is used in the right team, she can be one of the best offensive girls I guess.
I already said that but re-act is a strong underestimated game style. It's a high risk, high reward style due to the RNG and the lack of re-act chance buff but if the re-act occurs, it can totally change a battle.

Final verdict:
A glass canon made of pure glass and pure canon. She could deserve a S-tier for her ridiculous power but I will only give her a solid A Tier. In my opinion, she lacks a little something to be S Tier. A tiny tiny not important thing like... HP drain. For me, the S Tier hare the girls able to survive the hardest battles and carry all the hopes of her dead friends by herselves. Even with that incredible power, Cactus can't do that. If she had just x4 damages and HP drain, she may be able to win against the Death and kick her ass with ORAORAORAORA power.

Damn... Kuro-chan couldn't get her well deserved buff at all. Fix a bit on ability section grading but final grading is the same. She just too lacking compare to other sweeper archtype.

I also changed my vote a bit and added the section "teambuilding".

Since the team setups where she really shines are quite limited her overall rating drooped to B-.

To be honest if she didn't get her new Boss Damage Buff i would have rate her C-Tier as well. That saved her for me.

It's a bummer her Abilities are so contradicting. She is definetely a cool girl. Her Ult. also looks nice and badass.

Ok lets get to Frtilira...Fritala...Fritilualalilialalaa.......

Chocolate Rice Lily or Friti in short
*Those of you who know me remember the struggle every time I try to type her name in the past

First off before anything else - to say she is worse than Cattleya is absolutely retarded (no offense m8), if the damage is put into context of how she each of them are supposed to peform (as in what type of team setting) she would nuke Cattleya out of orbit.
Now that that is of my chest lets do a quick run down, since a lot has already been said, but there are still some things that are worth mentioning.

Ok so I will skip over stats and go straight to abilities.

Damage buff is standard deal.
Skill act - NOT ALL 6* have it, be grateful you grotz !
Boss fight Dmg - Solid and helpful especially if coupled with a team where you can either stack this or have a single nuker to finish.
Critical rate - it is a bit dissapointing they didnt plaster at least a 5-10% Crit damage onto her, but ah well. As far as activation goes she has whopping 30% which can help you get up to 80% even if in a team that does not fully commint to pure Critical. Its a solid

*Now I will mention here that she did not receive any Crit Buff despite being a Crit girl. Meanwhile Anemone turned from Counter to one of the best Crit girls out there. I really hope some buff is coming towards this girl, and it better be something more worthwhile than the usual 15% skill damage.

and the main dish

Damage buff per skill activation.
Now lets get this traight - in a team with 5 4 skill activaations and all girls skill levels maxed out, there are still times when the RnG completely F* yo over and not a single of the girls activate. At those moments I am like....... T_____T really nigga ?

However those times are more rare than common so moving on.

Friti was I believe the first girl I got on DMM with "choose Waifu" ticket, and while she is not as amazing as she could be people seem to underestimate the sheer carnage she can do even on single bosses simply due to her skill being an AOE instead of a Single target Nuke.
Unlike some of the more "selfish" girls, Friti despite her secluded personality is a big team player and shines in teams where you can bump her skill act as high as possible.
Let me say that my Friti after procing all her stuff and gathering that buff (no idea why Ninjax is flipping everytime word Boost is used ? Is it a reference to something ? ) can shred highest tier Aqua shadow girls. If crit, her damage output is equal to Mace loli chan without Crit, even slightly more.
Plus that animation is just badass.

Aslo - the skill buff applies IMMEDIATELY not in the next turn. And while it does not carry over, its not that hard to stack up every time.
The smartest choice is to put her last in your team, even behind yoru finisher to let her get as many of those stacks as possible. If you put her on any other position you are wasting her potential. And if you run at least two AoE girls at the head of your team, by the time you get to your single taerget nuker (in this case Mace Loli chan) who sits at 4th place, there is usually only the big baddy left anyway, so let Friti get her shredder stacks.
Friti requires a good tea composition to really shine, but building your team is one of the fun parts of this game and no girl should be a standalone world destroyer, coz thats fucking boring in my oppinion, and completely detracts from any joy one would have from playing LEGOs with the girls trying to build the teams in the most effective way. Still if used correctly Friti can bring the pain.

I rate her at B- borderline C+, but in proper setup she makes it out of C tier still.
A solid rainbow glass cannon. Set her last in the team to let her gather as many stacks of her buff as possible to make her shine.
Should she ever get a buff and get Crit damage added that might actually catapult her straight to A rank since it would play into the overall damage role.

Now lets move onto the usual fluffy waifu stuff shall we ? :3

For a long time I didnt like Friti. I really didnt. Miss edgy emo just wasnt up to my tastes, since this archetype is mostly aimed at undeveloped teenagers who pretend to be as edgy as a hedgehog surfing on a plank made of prickly icicles. I picked her purely for her skill back then when I started DMM and was looking for someone to synergize well with my Crit team. (Funny thing here. Aizoona and Friti share similar Ult. animation where Friti is a bit faster while Aizon has the added effect of Ibuky slamming into the pests at the end).

Playing the game however, over time she started to grow on me more and more, and while my JP skills are fairly limited, I know enough to understand bits and bobs of her story during the Hscene. Her mental breakdown where those high walls of her finally crumbled and she became more honest and more dere was very heartwarming, and actually pretty unexpectedly well written considering this is a simple browser H game, and as far as the story goes its as bad as any of this type.
This was further reinforced in the Bloom scene, and by that point I actually noticed she had earned a stable place in my heart.
She is a fairly slim petite girl, but does have some of the Yamato Nadeshiko beauty. And you can tell there is devotion to you once you go through both of her scenes. Hell even when you click her on the main screen her "blush line" is just....mmmm... bruh, any warrior would like a wife like this !
What I am not a fan of is the design choice behind her art style. That cap is kinda ridiculous and the artwork on all forms is a bit .... meh. Lacks details and color contrast for me to be interested in.

That is however remedied by her second skin - Yukata friti chan yei :3 ! The basic form is absolutely top notch (the Evo is still better than standard Friti versions, but she drops the yukata and pops on the god damn cap again !.... Girl I love caps I wear them outside every time, but they dont look like train conductor cap from 1860 god damnt !). Anyway the basic yukata form is very pretty, wish she was draw in the smiling form rather then the angry one, but I suppose it goes in line with who she is. Plus even while in yukata she still keeps her gloves and sword which again is bad ass.

The Ult looks amazing and gives of that old samurai movies feel where two stand opposed to each other, bam a single cut and one of them falls.
Overall Friti Yukata is very badass looking mofu and I like her much (swapped my basic Friti skin for this one. I love this function). Hope she gets a bit more love in the updates, and really hope the Yukata version gets a more fitting bloom artwork in line with the festival theme, hopefully without that stupid train conductor cap

Originally Posted by Myrdin

(no idea why Ninjax is flipping everytime word Boost is used ? Is it a reference to something ? )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP-Np1HGTtg

Welcome to the world of fine ass demon titties…. oh and BOOST!!!

@Shad

Rias would be proud

Ok the Discussion about Chocolate Lily is now over.
Results:
4xB
1xC

She will end up in B-Tier

Next Girl:

http://flowerknight.wikia.com/wiki/Peach_Blossom
Deadline: 30.06.2018

We just reach Nerine? Man and I thought I wouldn't show my face here until Saffron's turn but that would take months for her turn.
About grading, while I don't really mind or in more rude word, care for how you guys think. I do think we're pretty soft on grading. I too usually round the grade up when 50/50 situation arise. We end up with most in A/B tier but we compare between girls in the same tier, I at least, do see different in the power and performance, sometimes the gaps are pretty wide too.

I might write about this more tonight, and might grading Nerine too when I'm at it.

@game

First of all welcome back
Btw. i liked your votes so please don't wait until Saffron comes around before you vote again
The activity here dropped quite a bit and i need you to continue voting. You are one of the most consistant participants here.

@all
My two cents about softness in grading:

Well in my mind it's normal and healthy that there is discrepancy in Grading. Wouldn't be that funny if everyone has the same opinion. I also don't fear that too many girls will end up in A-tier. Like maotd once said the older Rainbows are just pretty much unbalanced and therefore they have been put in A-Tier.

In the B and C-Tier sector there is way more discrepancy i guess. The mid or lower Tier Girls are just more difficult to judge cause their power isn't that obvious. Some people might see something in a girl that others don't and just because someone said a girl is good/bad doesn't make it a true fact for another person.

Example: I myself didn't see Sakura as good as others but i accept that the majority here think she is an A-Tier Girl. If i wanted a list for myself i wouldn't have suggested a Tier List Poll. I would just have made an Excel Sheat for myself.

In hindsight i think it would have been a good idea to include + and - not only in our voting system but also add those elements to our list. I can see the benefit to not only differentiate between Tiers but also differentiate between girls in one Tier.