Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

I've at least yet to see someone regret miracle ticketing for Sol at least...

On hindsight, me miracle ticketing for Sol cause she's cute probably was a serious gamble of 50 bucks... but hey it worked out well

Sometimes barely legal anime thighs that squeeze in the first scene are worth the risk.

I have acc with water (Ctulhu, Belphy, Nike sr,Anahit) and light (Michael, Eros, Jihuti, Nike ) teams + i've got Mars too. Grid -Tiamat event stuff (all MLB+ extra LB2 Tiamat)+ LB2Sphynx, LB1 Vritra/Sphynx SSR. Now i rerolled into PTW eydo..... but it's Kirin+ couple offelement r, so they doesn't matter. I'm an FTP player and i'm confused. If i would have Belial/Rudra, i would switch withount any doubt, but with Kirin things ar not so uniquely. Some my statements about thunder my be wrong, fix me plz if i'm not correct.
1) Thunder has no heal at all (Gryla is dec ) and using off-element, like Nike means painfull damage loss with 100% eydo
2) Thunder has almost no def skills
3)Thunder has almost no debuffs (yes, Mammon, i know), but it's fixed with Darty with relic gun+ambush, so it' only matter of grind, not luck.
4) all this things means that only strategy for thunder is kill fast or die fast. I don't know, is it aquireble with 0 or almost 0 ssr.

From the other side we have a)PTW eydo is still PTW eydo.
b)PTW eydo means a lot of friends with PTW eydo so it's 200% element bonus
c)Next event is Thunder raid (Amaru). I don't need Eydo (only as sub), but weapons are very good boost to my grid, even MLB defenders with slv1 (if gacha will be nice to me).
d) Mammon is in a month and if i will play now, i should have 9k jevels (12k is too optimistic i think)+ about 25 premium tickets, so chance to get at least Azrael is high enough and maybe Mammon, but it's a matter of luck. Before it i will use Nike, Baal and 2 r from gem gacha.
e)dec will come and i will have thunder heal (she is event hime so i can't miss her if i will play that event).
So as i said i'm confused and don't know what to do. If I should play Kirin acc, I must start this weekend to prepare for Amaru event. I want to listen advices/ideas from as many people as possible.
Edit: spaces and paragraphes as Cobblemaniac wants

Originally Posted by Mraktar

I have acc with water (Ctulhu, Belphy, Nike sr,Anahit) and light (Michael, Eros, Jihuti, Nike ) teams + i've got Mars too. Grid -Tiamat event stuff (all MLB+ extra LB2 Tiamat)+ LB2Sphynx, LB1 Vritra/Sphynx SSR. Now i rerolled into PTW eydo..... but it's Kirin+ couple offelement r, so they doesn't matter. I'm an FTP player and i'm confused. If i would have Belial/Rudra, i would switch withount any doubt, but with Kirin things ar not so uniquely. Some my statements about thunder my be wrong, fix me plz if i'm not correct. 1) Thunder has no heal at all (Gryla is dec ) and using off-element, like Nike means painfull damage loss with 100% eydo 2) Thunder has almost no def skills 3)Thunder has almost no debuffs (yes, Mammon, i know), but it's fixed with Darty with relic gun+ambush, so it' only matter of grind, not luck. 4) all this things means that only strategy for thunder is kill fast or die fast. I don't know, is it aquireble with 0 or almost 0 ssr.
From the other side we have a)PTW eydo is still PTW eydo. b)PTW eydo means a lot of friends with PTW eydo so it's 200% element bonus
c)Next event is Thunder raid (Amaru). I don't need Eydo (only as sub), but weapons are very good boost to my grid, even MLB defenders with slv1 (if gacha will be nice to me). d) Mammon is in a month and if i will play now, i should have 9k jevels (12k is too optimistic i think)+ about 25 premium tickets, so chance to get at least Azrael is high enough and maybe Mammon, but it's a matter of luck. Before it i will use Nike, Baal and 2 r from gem gacha. e)dec will come and i will have thunder heal (she is event hime so i can't miss her if i will play that event).
So as i said i'm confused and don't know what to do. If I should play Kirin acc, I must start this weekend to prepare for Amaru event. I want to listen advices/ideas from as many people as possible.

Jesus, spacing and paragraphing would help.

IMO it's a tie between water and the Kirin account, although I'd say the Kirin account has an edge over the water simply for having the 100% eidolon, since the himes are probability-wise a bit easier to get.

Originally Posted by Mraktar

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As long as you put the effort into leveling your weapon grids, you can often just power through regular content enough to complete events, especially with a 100% eidolon. The only times you really need to worry about thunder's lack of healer weakness is in prolonged higher difficulty type battles, which in our current case is something like the Ragnarok raids, accessory quests and maybe high level union bosses, with 2 of these not even requiring to be solo.

In those cases of not having healers, you can always use a healer soul. D'art with her gun is a great soul for thunder teams but if you can clear a certain stage using a healer soul with regular sniper shot, then there's no reason not too. There's no need to tunnel yourself into thinking you can only use D'art. Although don't expect to complete future content like rank 5 accessory quests with a budget team like you can most of our current content. For the more difficult content, various specific himes are likely required and for thunder, many of them are SSRs, which makes thunder rather 'expensive' and not recommended for free players.

As for your points:
'b' isn't that important since you can just use someone who isn't a friend.

For 'd', trying to get Mammon with jewels and tickets, unless you're willing to put in 50 USDs for a miracle ticket, it shouldn't be a factor. Especially since you said you're a free player. There is no telling what you will get and in the case you don't get her or any essential thunder himes for the matter, this change would have been meaningless.

'e' seems to be the only redeeming factor in all this, as a free player. While a single SR thunder healer raid hime doesn't mean you should just down right swap over to a newly rerolled account with Kirin that has nothing else of value, the SR thunder healer hime is at least guaranteed and a good unit.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

As long as you put the effort into leveling your weapon grids, you can often just power through regular content enough to complete events, especially with a 100% eidolon. The only times you really need to worry about thunder's lack of healer weakness is in prolonged higher difficulty type battles, which in our current case is something like the Ragnarok raids, accessory quests and maybe high level union bosses, with 2 of these not even requiring to be solo.

In those cases of not having healers, you can always use a healer soul. D'art with her gun is a great soul for thunder teams but if you can clear a certain stage using a healer soul with regular sniper shot, then there's no reason not too. There's no need to tunnel yourself into thinking you can only use D'art. Although don't expect to complete future content like rank 5 accessory quests with a budget team like you can most of our current content. For the more difficult content, various specific himes are likely required and for thunder, many of them are SSRs, which makes thunder rather 'expensive' and not recommended for free players.

As for your points:
'b' isn't that important since you can just use someone who isn't a friend.

For 'd', trying to get Mammon with jewels and tickets, unless you're willing to put in 50 USDs for a miracle ticket, it shouldn't be a factor. Especially since you said you're a free player. There is no telling what you will get and in the case you don't get her or any essential thunder himes for the matter, this change would have been meaningless.

'e' seems to be the only redeeming factor in all this, as a free player. While a single SR thunder healer raid hime doesn't mean you should just down right swap over to a newly rerolled account with Kirin that has nothing else of value, the SR thunder healer hime is at least guaranteed and a good unit.

I can agree with some of your arguments. Yes, i am not planing to use mainly Darty next months, at least before i will get relic gun. My main souls should be Mordred and Cassy for a long time, and then Gryla will be released someday. AQ5... lol, i've seen them on youtube so i already understand that i will never do them with FTP group and i don't care about it at all. 'd'... yes, i understand that chance to get Mammon is very low, but still will try to get her. Friends with PTW eydos not that impornant? seriously? It's one of the main reasons, maybe even main for me to switch to Kirin because chance to see non-friend 100% is very very low - maybe 1-2 every day. And when you have 5-6 friends with needed 100%, you will get her in more then half battles (exclude for example 30 min gem grind) so you may hope to get her for important battles (AQ, ulti/ragnarok raids etc). And there is only 1 way to get all those friends - provide them with your own 100%. The only thing that i can't understand what account has more potential strength for FTP - blank Kirin one Vs Ctulhu+Belphy/Michael+Eros/Mars one. Maybe i will continue rerolls for Rudra/Belial.

Originally Posted by Mraktar

I can agree with some of your arguments. Yes, i am not planing to use mainly Darty next months, at least before i will get relic gun. My main souls should be Mordred and Cassy for a long time, and then Gryla will be released someday. AQ5... lol, i've seen them on youtube so i already understand that i will never do them with FTP group and i don't care about it at all. 'd'... yes, i understand that chance to get Mammon is very low, but still will try to get her. Friends with PTW eydos not that impornant? seriously? It's one of the main reasons, maybe even main for me to switch to Kirin because chance to see non-friend 100% is very very low - maybe 1-2 every day. And when you have 5-6 friends with needed 100%, you will get her in more then half battles (exclude for example 30 min gem grind) so you may hope to get her for important battles (AQ, ulti/ragnarok raids etc). And there is only 1 way to get all those friends - provide them with your own 100%. The only thing that i can't understand what account has more potential strength for FTP - blank Kirin one Vs Ctulhu+Belphy/Michael+Eros/Mars one. Maybe i will continue rerolls for Rudra/Belial.

I didn't say ptw eidolons aren't important, I'm saying your 'b' isn't much of a factor, this being because you can use any 100% eidolon you see when selecting a support eidolon, even if they're not on your friend list, you will still get their effect. The thing is, you seriously don't need 2 100% eidolons at all times. Don't get me wrong, having 2 can very much help, but that amount of power is generally overkill for most regular content. It'll make already easy content easier. Having double 100% eidolons only becomes really important for the more difficult content, they very same content that you won't be able to do without the proper himes to begin with. These important battles are usually limited, adding onto my reasoning that you don't need them at all times. Then there's the fact that you can reroll for an alt account and friend them with your main, always having access to a 100%, if it really matters.

As for your last question, if you were someone who spent money on this game, having a 100% eidolon is undoubtedly better in the long run because it would be guaranteed potential to grow. Without being willing to spend any money, it becomes nothing but a gamble. Me for example, despite having played from launch and even spending some money, I do not have a single SSR wind or water hime.

If you really want a free to play team, then stick with Hraesvelger as wind teams are much more viable as a completely free player.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

As for your last question, if you were someone who spent money on this game, having a 100% eidolon is undoubtedly better in the long run because it would be guaranteed potential to grow. Without being willing to spend any money, it becomes nothing but a gamble. Me for example, despite having played from launch and even spending some money, I do not have a single SSR wind or water hime.

If you really want a free to play team, then stick with Hraesvelger as wind teams are much more viable as a completely free player.

I am not discussing the wind acc because it is and will be my main. I want to select a secondary one because kamihime punishes hard for been new player so i want to start it fast. At least i will complete daylies/weeklies/events with it for a while. And difference between 145 and 200% is can i kill advent ragnarok or not, can i kill AQ3 with no elemental advantage or not, can i get MVP/viceMVP on raid or not and so on, and all this with not so good hime setup.