Quote Originally Posted by Bear View Post
Da heck you talking about. She gets a flat 30 burst from Abi1 right off the bat and gives herself a strong DATA buff with Abi2... And both skills only have 5CD and then she's up again. If anything she gains burst faster than she drains, fast enough that you can still FB with her fairly consistently without any help at all. And how is she 'only good with advantage'? She doesn't need crit to do 30~40% more dmg than the rest of your team via normal and burst.
Thank you Bear!

Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
I never said anything about an offensive build.
However, an offensive build can still make use out of Hades. Once Awakened, she will hurt on Burst turns, plus she'll be amazing at keeping your party alive. A dead party doesn't deal any damage, after all.If you put it that way, then everything is situational... like Chemo is situational. She, after all, is mostly dependant on elemental advantage.
Again, I didn't say anything other than NOT selling combo- short.All of this is not available on turn1~
Or I guess technically it is, if you're going to use Chemo mode for one or two turns.If by "depend" you mean "absolutely never have a Hime killed" then yes, I depend on it.
Dude, I already explained how her skills work and you still didn't understand it.
Chernobog, Pluto & Berith will easily outperform Hades AW.
They will do more damage per hit and more Burst Damage.
If you don't have one of those Himes then use Hades. Otherwise no please use a fucking damage dealer. Susano AW would be also a good choice.

Keeping your party alive? Man... What are you talking about?
That'll be Plutos job with her damage cut and party RST...
Most of the "core" Himes have a skill to survive.

Satan AW = energy drain, 15BG to herself and Orb eater --> Synergy with Osiris and Pluto

Osiris = 2T no damage and 1.100 party heal +15 party BG

Chernobog = One-Man-Party Mode --> 500 HP/T & 100% def
She has a Skill that offers every 5T 30 BG --> Synergy with Osiris and Pluto

Berith = 100% ascension as a Assist Skill for herself --> synergy with Osiris.
She is your tank and has similar skills like Shamash but does way more damage.

Can't you understand that there is a fucking synergy with those Dark Himes? That's one more reason you shouldn't use Hades in a damage build... She isn't a core anymore.

And no, non of them is situational. You can also use them for off-elememt.
I would at least try to get either Chernobog or Berith for your damage build.

Again for defensive I would still go with Joan instead of Hades.