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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear View Post
    Da heck you talking about. She gets a flat 30 burst from Abi1 right off the bat and gives herself a strong DATA buff with Abi2... And both skills only have 5CD and then she's up again. If anything she gains burst faster than she drains, fast enough that you can still FB with her fairly consistently without any help at all. And how is she 'only good with advantage'? She doesn't need crit to do 30~40% more dmg than the rest of your team via normal and burst.
    Thank you Bear!

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    I never said anything about an offensive build.
    However, an offensive build can still make use out of Hades. Once Awakened, she will hurt on Burst turns, plus she'll be amazing at keeping your party alive. A dead party doesn't deal any damage, after all.If you put it that way, then everything is situational... like Chemo is situational. She, after all, is mostly dependant on elemental advantage.
    Again, I didn't say anything other than NOT selling combo- short.All of this is not available on turn1~
    Or I guess technically it is, if you're going to use Chemo mode for one or two turns.If by "depend" you mean "absolutely never have a Hime killed" then yes, I depend on it.
    Dude, I already explained how her skills work and you still didn't understand it.
    Chernobog, Pluto & Berith will easily outperform Hades AW.
    They will do more damage per hit and more Burst Damage.
    If you don't have one of those Himes then use Hades. Otherwise no please use a fucking damage dealer. Susano AW would be also a good choice.

    Keeping your party alive? Man... What are you talking about?
    That'll be Plutos job with her damage cut and party RST...
    Most of the "core" Himes have a skill to survive.

    Satan AW = energy drain, 15BG to herself and Orb eater --> Synergy with Osiris and Pluto

    Osiris = 2T no damage and 1.100 party heal +15 party BG

    Chernobog = One-Man-Party Mode --> 500 HP/T & 100% def
    She has a Skill that offers every 5T 30 BG --> Synergy with Osiris and Pluto

    Berith = 100% ascension as a Assist Skill for herself --> synergy with Osiris.
    She is your tank and has similar skills like Shamash but does way more damage.

    Can't you understand that there is a fucking synergy with those Dark Himes? That's one more reason you shouldn't use Hades in a damage build... She isn't a core anymore.

    And no, non of them is situational. You can also use them for off-elememt.
    I would at least try to get either Chernobog or Berith for your damage build.

    Again for defensive I would still go with Joan instead of Hades.

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    PS: Blaze if you can try to get Dark Amaterasu next year, I hope you have luck.
    You can build a better defensive build with her and she is very versatile.
    She is still amazing. Not for a damage build, but for defensive and some hard contents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    PS: Blaze if you can try to get Dark Amaterasu next year, I hope you have luck.
    You can build a better defensive build with her and she is very versatile.
    She is still amazing. Not for a damage build, but for defensive and some hard contents.
    Hmmm.. I.. don't know though. I mean I'd like to get her, but if I recall correctly someone said here that she would return but she wouldn't be included in the jewel gacha by that time? Or am I mistaken?
    (I'm still unsure about rolling non-guaranteed gachas that require real money to pay since I've experienced a lot of pain with those in past games, but if I am indeed wrong and she would still be in the jewel gacha then I wouldn't mind)

    and I can actually see why Berith and Chernobog are important now and why you said Hades is okay to be replaced in the future.. good synergy indeed with Pluto, Berith will be the one taunting and tanking the attacks, while Chernobog would be whamming the boss hard, and if its an AoE overdrive, then it would be Pluto's turn to shine with her damage cut (and jeanne if the situation needs it)
    well that's how I mostly imagined it would go anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlazeRai View Post
    Hmmm.. I.. don't know though. I mean I'd like to get her, but if I recall correctly someone said here that she would return but she wouldn't be included in the jewel gacha by that time? Or am I mistaken?
    (I'm still unsure about rolling non-guaranteed gachas that require real money to pay since I've experienced a lot of pain with those in past games, but if I am indeed wrong and she would still be in the jewel gacha then I wouldn't mind)

    and I can actually see why Berith and Chernobog are important now and why you said Hades is okay to be replaced in the future.. good synergy indeed with Pluto, Berith will be the one taunting and tanking the attacks, while Chernobog would be whamming the boss hard, and if its an AoE overdrive, then it would be Pluto's turn to shine with her damage cut (and jeanne if the situation needs it)
    well that's how I mostly imagined it would go anyway
    It was with star coins. That's why I said "if you can".
    I don't know how Nutaku will handle it but it's your choice.

    Dark Ama would allow you to use a team like this for defense:
    - Shingen with Attack down A-Frame or Jeanne with PF but you will need to run Osiris, to play save.
    - Satan AW/Amon (in your case)
    - Pluto
    - Berith (for tanking) or Chernobog (has 100% def) or Osiris (if you want heal)
    - Dark Ama --> Snipper + BP

    Berith and Chernobog are strong Dark Himes. They both hit very hard, more than Satan AW, Hades AW and Susano AW.
    "Important", well if you really main dark then you should Miracle at least Berith if you don't have one of those two power packs until the 4th Miracle Ticket.
    Otherwise if you don't main dark, your team is good enough.
    Chernobog is still a bit tricky, Berith is overall the better choice because she dosen't run out of her damage after Burst like Chernobog with her "One-Man-Army"-Skill.

    Don't forget both have a good synergy with Osiris too!
    Like I said before:
    Chernobog = One-Man-Army Mode --> 500 HP/T & 100% def
    She has a Skill that offers every 5T 30 BG --> Synergy with Osiris and Pluto

    Berith = 100% ascension as a Assist Skill for herself --> synergy with Osiris.
    Why? Because with 100% ascension she will get more healing, but her assist skill is just for herself not party.
    Basically Berith won't get 1.100HP from Osiris but a lot more...

    That's why I am saying you should keep your eyes to get one of those two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    It was with star coins. That's why I said "if you can".
    I don't know how Nutaku will handle it but it's your choice.

    Dark Ama would allow you to use a team like this for defense:
    - Shingen with Attack down A-Frame or Jeanne with PF but you will need to run Osiris, to play save.
    - Satan AW/Amon (in your case)
    - Pluto
    - Berith (for tanking) or Chernobog (has 100% def) or Osiris (if you want heal)
    - Dark Ama --> Snipper + BP

    Berith and Chernobog are strong Dark Himes. They both hit very hard, more than Satan AW, Hades AW and Susano AW.
    "Important", well if you really main dark then you should Miracle at least Berith if you don't have one of those two power packs until the 4th Miracle Ticket.
    Otherwise if you don't main dark, your team is good enough.
    Chernobog is still a bit tricky, Berith is overall the better choice because she dosen't run out of her damage after Burst like Chernobog with her "One-Man-Army"-Skill.

    Don't forget both have a good synergy with Osiris too!
    Like I said before:
    Chernobog = One-Man-Army Mode --> 500 HP/T & 100% def
    She has a Skill that offers every 5T 30 BG --> Synergy with Osiris and Pluto

    Berith = 100% ascension as a Assist Skill for herself --> synergy with Osiris.
    Why? Because with 100% ascension she will get more healing, but her assist skill is just for herself not party.
    Basically Berith won't get 1.100HP from Osiris but a lot more...

    That's why I am saying you should keep your eyes to get one of those two.
    yeah I'm kinda leaning towards Berith more because of her tank role, and that alone would actually help increase survival for the other himes..
    and like you said, Chernobog is good at what she does, but she's not without her flaws

    But yeah since it's still gonna be awhile till they come here, I can actually consider one of them for the 4th miracle ticket. Thanks again for your opinion btw
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlazeRai View Post
    yeah I'm kinda leaning towards Berith more because of her tank role, and that alone would actually help increase survival for the other himes..
    and like you said, Chernobog is good at what she does, but she's not without her flaws

    But yeah since it's still gonna be awhile till they come here, I can actually consider one of them for the 4th miracle ticket. Thanks again for your opinion btw
    She isn't only your tank. She is more of a offensive tanker, I would say.
    She does more damage than the awakened Dark Himes and she will burst fast, if she gets attacked because of her "intercept" skill.
    She will dodge the enemies attack and attack back = 10BG more.

    And she is cute too. ww.w.神姫プロジェクト.攻略wiki.com/index.php?ベリト

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    She isn't only your tank. She is more of a offensive tanker, I would say.
    She does more damage than the awakened Dark Himes and she will burst fast, if she gets attacked because of her "intercept" skill.
    She will dodge the enemies attack and attack back = 10BG more.

    And she is cute too. ww.w.神姫プロジェクト.攻略wiki.com/index.php?ベリト
    that's actually true..
    besides berith, cherno, and the other ones you said, are there any other dark himes i should keep an eye out for? or is there none as of yet?
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