Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Mirai

I was debating between Shiva and Cthulhu for the Mtix and eventually went with Shiva. But I actually just got Cthulhu off a random gacha ticket So now for water himes I have:

Vohu, Ryu-oh, Aphrodite, Snow Raphael, Shiva, Cthulhu.

When unlocking 4th/5th accessory slots, who should I prioritize? I'm not too sure which himes would end up being core members in the long-term. On a similar note, what are the best water comps to go for?

You should prioritize himes that you currently use. Of the himes you listed I would unlock Vohu, Cthulhu, and Shiva at least. Any team you make should include them and the last hime can change depending on your needs.

Originally Posted by Tanukimo

You should prioritize himes that you currently use. Of the himes you listed I would unlock Vohu, Cthulhu, and Shiva at least. Any team you make should include them and the last hime can change depending on your needs.

Got it, thank you!

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

Ophiel axe and lance are both very good end-game level weapons.

What about bow? Aint it's good for upping burst damage? Also, small combo+

Originally Posted by Jessa

What about bow? Aint it's good for upping burst damage? Also, small combo+

Problem with the bow is the lack of assault. If you are not capping your existing exceed, assault generally gives more dmg than exceed. If you're hitting burst cap, the exceed can be worth more than assault (assuming you can still hit burst cap without that assault.) You really want both assault and exceed though, so Ophiel bow is sort of a last resort if you don't have the demon UE bow or Merc axe (even LB0 Merc is better than Ophiel bow 'cos by the time you hit burst caps, your base stats should be high enough that the 16% assault is worth more than 1.2k-ish loss in raw atk.)

As for avalanche, I guess it's better than no skill, but it hardly makes up for the lack of assault. Honestly, I would prefer defender over avalanche since Ophiel lance grid lacks defender. As an actual dmg multiplier, avalanche is far inferior to assault/vigor/exceed since it basically only boosts your natk dmg. It can be helpful for getting you ready to burst faster or more consistently, but it's unlikely to be enough to offset the loss in assault (this is unlike accessories, where the assault-DATA trade-off ratio is much more attractive.) In fact, avalanche can sometimes be worse than barrage - for GDATA builds, you want more TA not more DA as the DA will crowd out the TA from normalization.

Also, you are extremely unlikely to need more than 1 MLB Ophiel bow. Serious water mains will save eyes to buy a Merc axe. More casual or non-water mains can go Ophiel axe grid (40% exceed from phantom axe) or simply don't have the right hime buffs to consistently make use of exceed beyond the first 40%. Simply farming 5 MLB Ophiel weapons to fill a grid actually gives you a decent chance of getting multiple bows as drops, so I generally discourage ppl from buying the bow even if they'll eventually need it, just in case they get it for free.

Do the guardian raid SSR weapons drop from leeching? Or do you have to be the one to host? Same question for phantom weapons from ragnarok raids. I think my focus for now is unlocking accessory slots and farming Ophiel ssr's to get rid of my raid sr's lol.

Originally Posted by Mirai

Do the guardian raid SSR weapons drop from leeching? Or do you have to be the one to host? Same question for phantom weapons from ragnarok raids. I think my focus for now is unlocking accessory slots and farming Ophiel ssr's to get rid of my raid sr's lol.

Yes, both guard and phantom weapons can drop from leeching, you don't need to be the host either. It's a very low probability event (around low single digit % chance) but given that you'll probably do many hundreds of these raids, you have a very good chance of seeing a drop eventually. MVP-ing noticeably boosts the chances of a weapon dropping, but still rare.

This is based on a rigorous sample of one and various one-off anecdotes, but the game seems to have a very strong desire sensor - I use only the phantom lance 99% of the time, and I did not get a second phantom lance until all my other phantom weapons were MLB and have foddered many of the excess. Similarly for guardian weapons, the weapon that drops least is the one I want most -.-

Anyway, point is it's all RNG, so set your expectations low so it's easier for the game to exceed expectations

Originally Posted by Slashley

What kind of builds are those.

I don't know enough about water to know how practical these builds are there, but both Saraswati and Aphrodite have pretty strong DATA buffs iirc. For light it's pretty easy: 30% DATA from tiara set, another 30%-ish from fluffy, 20%-ish from Mike DA buff and you're at 80%-ish already. Tish TA buff is 50%, so she can easily make a two himes GDATA for 5/6T even without fluffy. Iris and Vishnu both can stack up to fairly ridiculous level of DATA for themselves. The nice thing about GDATA is that I can activate buffs in advance of a FB, so I can for example activate Hagith, then fluffy, then Kaiser without fear of a hime not generating enough BG to burst before the Hagith buff expires.

Just happened to got Sol recently, so I'm aiming at a Light Haggith staff (3 UE Axe, 5 Haggith staff, 1 phantom staff), so does it worth to replace 5 assaults with 5 vigors? (I already have MLB Fluffy)


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Originally Posted by dreamlitz

-- In fact, avalanche can sometimes be worse than barrage - for GDATA builds, you want more TA not more DA as the DA will crowd out the TA from normalization.--

What kind of builds are those.