Thread: [Event 21] Crucible of Combat vs The Demon Lust (Union Event)

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

I ran the numbers, and with a full grid of assault SR weapons (+130% attack), 2x +40% elemental attack is better than 2x +90% character attack (from Lilims) even in best-case scenarios for the latter (3x kamihime of the matching element). In addition, losing the Lilim buff due to a character dying is a significant risk that will tend to cripple the team in difficult content. Thus Lilims are recommended only for newer players who don't have much assault skill or don't have access to better eidolons.

Teamwise, the older eidolons might be better, but what about for individual team members? I've been relying heavily on Acala (buffed up by the Crowley soul line) for this event, so I'm wondering if a rampaging, double-attacking hime like her would benefit more from Lilims than the standard choices for eidolons.

Originally Posted by Skulkraken

Teamwise, the older eidolons might be better, but what about for individual team members? I've been relying heavily on Acala (buffed up by the Crowley soul line) for this event, so I'm wondering if a rampaging, double-attacking hime like her would benefit more from Lilims than the standard choices for eidolons.

Bringing it down to individuals doesn't change the underlying math. Changing the premises would require a source of elemental attack, such as from a temporary buff or elemental advantage. But if you have +130% attack and elemental advantage, none of this matters anyway, because if a maxed team with elemental advantage can't beat the content, then no one can. The point of optimization is usually to overcome worst-case scenarios (otherwise you'd be better off running easier content you could clear more reliably). Lilims introduce risk rather than mitigate it, which makes them a particularly poor choice.

The final nail in the coffin for Lilims is that Lilims are useless to anyone running a team with 4-5 same-element characters. That means that Lilim users will end up ostracized with only other Lilim-users available as friends. From a game theory standpoint, Lilims are doomed to fail.