Thread: [Event 24] Halloween Event - Jack o' Lantern Raid!

Originally Posted by Shieun

people need to realise that running ragnarok is not the best way to get the souls.--

Even though Ragnaroks are the only way to get Reds? Yeah, we totally can avoid them.

At the moment, Expert has some droprate on Reds, but if I've understood right, then the next raid event is removing that. So enjoy your forced 100 Ragnaroks.
At least they're removing PP from Tickets, so that's good.

Ragnarok isn't the only way to get devil souls. I've gotten over 20 today from running expert only, drop rate seems to be like 1 for every 3 or 4 diivines though.

I definitely wasted too much seeds running Ragnarok on day 1. From what I can see, you can probably reach 100 devil souls just running expert for your 200 divine. Even if not, once you hit 200 divines from farming expert, you should have a good amount of devil souls already since expert drops both, which you could just keep running expert or go for some Ragnaroks for higher chance for those last devil souls instead of burning seeds on it early on and end up far exceeding your quota, wasting potential seeds.

They need to boost drops for Ragnaroks or something like more tickets because it isn't even worth farming at this point.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Even though Ragnaroks are the only way to get Reds? Yeah, we totally can avoid them.

At the moment, Expert has some droprate on Reds, but if I've understood right, then the next raid event is removing that. So enjoy your forced 100 Ragnaroks.
At least they're removing PP from Tickets, so that's good.

We'll worry about it until the next raid where they might be removing the reds from experts. Until then, EX have a decent drop rate on red souls, so might as well start farming that, and only do ragnarok when you need to.

At the current drop rate, ragnarok is not the best place for lower level to farm devil souls considering the difficulty and party size. High leveled players who can solo Ragnarok should just keep doing whatever they like, and not worry about the opinion of a lowbie pleb like me.

I can't even solo Expert. Or Rag, even though Rag seems a lot easier.

Expert is such murder because of the goddamn buffs. Without Sol, you're just fucked if you can't Jack to Rage without a single Overdrive. And since I can't do that, I always have to just sit and wait for somebody to join before I start debuffing and attacking. And even then, half the time the idiots just go auto-battle (without even skill nukes first) and trigger the buffs anyway. So then it's a freaking 3 minute wait, plus all debuffs lost.

i'm joining ragnarok only during burst time so i can deal more damage alnig with my union members, outside burst time i'll join expert only.
doing ragnarok outside burst time will be harder and take longer time to clear so i prefer not to join any outside burst time.
though something seems off..i'm using my fire team during burst time to deal a little more damage during burst time in ragnarok battle.
i got my fire gun to level 20 skill level from level 10 and even got the lance from level 10 to level 12.
i haven't changed my formation, using about the same eidolons as support and the weapon grid is the same, nothing got removed.
and yet, from 1.4M+ my damage got reduced to 1.2-1.3M O_O

Debuffs? Unless you were solo, there were probably different debuffs up?

Also, 6% character attack from your weapon grid isn't a huge boost.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Debuffs? Unless you were solo, there were probably different debuffs up?

Also, 6% character attack from your weapon grid isn't a huge boost.

don't get me wrong, i didn't expect a huge boost after maxing 1 weapon, but i didn't expect to loost over 200K damage either O_O
thought it may be the same or a little but higher, but then it looks like leveling up the skill level wasn't worth it at all O_O
i'm not soloing her, but i use d'art with ambush so it should be the same debuff as before.
my friend thought it's because she cahnged gawain for mordred so i get less attack buff from gawain (brynhildr is same frame so it's not like i lose that much bost anyway)
but then someone with arthur joined the raid and i got arthur's boost which is even higer than gawain and still lower than 1.4M i had before.

Uuuuh? So you went from -40% Def (Sniper + Gawain's Ambush) to -20% Def (Sniper Shot) and you're wondering why you lost so much damage?

Debuffs are way, way, way more important than anything else. Well, okay, fine, that's not true, but assuming that your weapon grid is okay-ish (80%+), then at that point.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Uuuuh? So you went from -40% Def (Sniper + Gawain's Ambush) to -20% Def (Sniper Shot) and you're wondering why you lost so much damage?

Debuffs are way, way, way more important than anything else. Well, okay, fine, that's not true, but assuming that your weapon grid is okay-ish (80%+), then at that point.

read again, i haven't changed my soul, my friend did change it.
i'm still using d'art with ambush

Oh, okay, fair enough. I misread. The only explanation I can think of is that there was a Cthulhu that you didn't notice, but I guess you don't make your Ragna's public? A mystery then.
And by your friend, I assume you mean Kitty? I remember saving you two from a Ragnarok once.

EDIT: Oh, and I assume you're using at least one Elemental Eidolon and not double HP Eidolons...?