Thread: Accessory Quests

Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

having 3 different elements and deal this much damage make me wonder what will happen once you use water lilim in this formation.
also,this battle made me think that maybe i should replace diana for cthulhu and use ambush as extra skill instead of sniper shot.
that way i'll have-
Defense- Ambush (20% frame A), mordred skill (10% frame B) and cthulhu (20% frame C)- 50% in total
Attack- cthulhu/raphael (15% frame A), mordred skill (10% frame B) and sol (20% frame C)- 45% (can be more when jorm is summoned in battle)
also, mordred's black propaganda can work well with raphael's reduce charging orb and cthulhu's absorb charging orb making it longer for a boss to use her overdrive skill.
and even if they won't have diana's attack buff, the extra defense debuff will make up for it and they'll deal more damage anyway.
but, what makes me a little uneasy about it, cthulhu won't get a bonus at all- no eido and no weapon, so no attack or HP boost.
so if she get targeted it's kinda gonna be a problem.

For me, replacing Diana with Dark Amon result in a small damage loss on neutral element. But its still only -45% def and i guess it will change depending on your stats.
However, loosing sniper shot atk debuff on first wave might be painful. And even if you end up with a damage increase on boss, you'll still loose -10% atk. Not talking about outrage cooldown compared to sniper shot.

Still worth trying, but i'm not sure about the result.

Originally Posted by Yolodesu

For me, replacing Diana with Dark Amon result in a small damage loss on neutral element. But its still only -45% def and i guess it will change depending on your stats.

For CaptainNoobCN's situation, replacing Diana + Sniper Shot with Cthulhu + Ambush would increase normal attack damage by 10%. That's assuming all debuffs land; the lower the base level of DEF down, the less advantage additional DEF down provides.

Replacing Diana with Dark Amon, assuming Sniper Shot is used with both, would result in a tie. That's a bad idea because unlike Cthulhu, Dark Amon doesn't bring additional utility to the team, and just has lower HP.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Do note that I ran with a +60% Fafnir.

so next step is Belial

Originally Posted by mustafa

so next step is Belial

Well no, because that wouldn't buff my Water team.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

That's a bad idea because unlike Cthulhu, Dark Amon doesn't bring additional utility to the team, and just has lower HP.

I disagree with this part. Even if Chtulu is stronger on her own, in that situation its less obvious. Mad cultism dupe with Raphael's abilities, making it less interesting than it should be.
So basically, compared to Amon, she brings a 8 turns cd charge reduction.

Amon on the other hand brings utility that are, indeed, useless on the first 2 waves, but that makes the last boss more smooth. Catastrophe fist hits a % of the rage bar, even without being buffed by elemental dmg (with Raphael its more than 1/3 of the bar instantly gone), and sometimes the boss wont even break the stun with the extension.
And again, she allows you to run sniper shot.

Also you're wrong about her stats. Amon has higher base value in both hp and atk, with the advantage of being dark element.

I was glad when i finally got Diana, but Amon is far from being a bad choice to complete a light team. And in that situation, far from being worse than Chtulu.
There is only one "miracle" fix for light anyway : Tsukuyomi ^-^

The comparison isn't Cthulhu vs. Dark Amon. It's Dark Amon vs. Diana.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

The comparison isn't Cthulhu vs. Dark Amon. It's Dark Amon vs. Diana.

Well, kind of. You're explaining why it would be fine to replace Diana with Chtulu, but not with Amon. And i simply disagree with that.

Imo its a bad idea for both.