Miracle ticket thread

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-- but buffs are generally viewed higher than debuffs considering they're less likely to get canceled

What.

Buffs in Kamihime are really fucking shitty. For example, Atk Up buff versus Def Down debuff.
Atk Up: SSR grade is 20%, effectively 10% more damage (or less as your Grid improves), lasts 3/5 turns. About ~6~10% more damage (6% overall, but Full Bursting constantly under full buffs might maybe sometimes possibly get you closer to 10%) in total.
Def Down: SSR grade is -20%, effectively 20-28% more damage, 8 turn CD for 180 seconds = lasts enough for full uptime. About 20~28% more damage (20% more when going from 0% Def Down to -20%, 28% when going from -30% to -50%) in total.
You can make a similar comparison for Def Up and Atk Down as well.

It's not even a contest. BUFFS ARE SHIT. The only time when buffs start becoming a part of the equation is when we start getting bosses which are highly resistant to debuffs, which will supposedly happen later down the line (as soon as next event?).

While true on the combo thing, again, high debuff resist can just give a middle finger to that. So then what? This more or less comes to Ama having two skills into one, which still makes her better in that sense if it wasn't for the fact that all of yamas debuffs are in one skill, which more or less shuffles it around between the two

What.

Amaterasu has a ludicrous hitrate on her Blind. You can rely on it to land better than Yamaraja's Combo-. Mind you that if either Combo-
gets resisted, it's basically a moot debuff.

As for damage cap, you kinda contradicted yourself and proved my point at the same time. Can't hit 1 mil without doing 3.4 mil cause the cap is 700k, even though it's clearly doing higher than the cap? What's really happening is the same as a mechanic on Elsword known as normalization, meaning when you hit a certain point, you get less payoff by increasing it... which a lot of things in this game also does. But since "doing as much damage as possible" is the main focus, the average damage of both skills really needs to be looked at. Also, I did say it can hit 7 digits and you explained a way how...

3.7m, not 3.4m. Also, smartypants, if you're so smart, please go ahead and tell me what kind of stats do you need in order to reach 3.7m with Yamaraja?

Let me give you a hint: those kinds of stats would be absolutely outrageous. Like, the kind of outrageous that why are you even bothering with skills when your auto-attacks are killing all content in a few turns...? I can't be bothered to make the maths, but I'm pretty sure you'd easily hit the auto-attack damage cap which is REALLY high.

Now granted(and i did say this in the last comment) Ama is better cause she has a wider range of effects (despite being defensive in a DAMAGE meta), but at the same time yama isn't weak either, you're just refusing to give her more credit. Plus you're gonna have kami with buffs as well if you got for the "best fire kami" so until someone rolls around with a better kit including the same or stronger fire atk buff, that's a bit less damage getting pushed out.--

Hell, I've even been told multiple times before that getting ama on a ticket was redundant considering I had yama. Only real reason I got ama is due to defense in fights where I can't debuff

Gotta keep in mind that it can depend on the player's situation

"Situations" depend on RNG. "Should you get Amaterasu when you already have Yamaraja" isn't the correct question, the correct questions are "should you get Amaterasu when you don't have Svarog and Uriel yet?" (where the answer is "never" btw) and "should you get Amaterasu to upgrade Yamaraja when you don't have Mars yet?" (where the answer is "no" btw).


You're literally recommending for somebody to spend 50 bucks on a Hime for which there is a strictly superior version of. I don't care how much you whale, just please have respect for other people's money.

Come on. Just fuck off already and don't waste both of our time.