Thread: [Event 49] Raid Battle vs Adrammelech

The event is known to start on the first. Just look up the current Premium Gacha, it lists you when the current character bonuses end. That's when the next character bonuses start, ie, the next event is out.

I'm just a biiiiiit anxious to have a Eidolon of my main Element.
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Not yet?


Edit: 1 July? That's great news. I was fearing it begin on day 3. I will have much to do on work that day. 1 and 2 I can play much more. Either way, while I am really excited for it, basically I was trying to be funny.

Did you not play during Apocalypse? Sure Adra is better, but not by a significant margin.

Of course, actually finding Fafnir or Apo in your friendlist is an entirely different matter...

I began on Halloween. And was too newbie to do anything interesting on Wrath. So, my only event for my main element on all that months have been the Yatagarasu reprint.

if the event is starting on the 1st, i couldn't have picked a better time to use vacation days.... i'll be off for nearly a week of paid vacation so that's plenty of time to grind an event for once

but in my case, "water sucks! it really, really sucks!" so i might just throw my light team at it outside of the expert mission...

Originally Posted by Delete

I began on Halloween. And was too newbie to do anything interesting on Wrath. So, my only event for my main element on all that months have been the Yatagarasu reprint.

at least yata is far more useful than the wrath lilim. all lilims are sub fodder at best....

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

if the event is starting on the 1st, i couldn't have picked a better time to use vacation days.... i'll be off for nearly a week of paid vacation so that's plenty of time to grind an event for once

but in my case, "water sucks! it really, really sucks!" so i might just throw my light team at it outside of the expert mission...




at least yata is far more useful than the wrath lilim. all lilims are sub fodder at best....

If you have a team that hits better than your light team, considering the element bonus isn't that game-breakingly high, I'd suggest you switch over to that instead.

Lilim sub fodder is... even debatable. The stats are pretty much SR level, so the only thing you have going for is the element boost. And well, there are other eidolons that provide the same boost, or even better. Ixion over thunder Lilim, for example.

When the raid eidolon store rolls about, that's instant degradation to orb fodder since everyone can buy Kaisers. If only they buffed these girls...

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

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Lilim sub fodder is... even debatable. The stats are pretty much SR level, so the only thing you have going for is the element boost. And well, there are other eidolons that provide the same boost, or even better. Ixion over thunder Lilim, for example.

For the record, there are extremely rare cases where Lilims are the best Mains to use. For example, there was that one DMM player who used a Lilim to hit #3 on Individual rankings, thanks to having to use Thor and Arianrhod for Paralyzes (both off-element). I found that odd, so after mathing it out, despite there being 100 free Assault from Union buffs, it was actually more damage to use Lilim over a basic Elemental attack Eidolon. By a whopping couple of percent, but those couple of percent can mean the difference between rank#3 and rank#6 for example.

... I kinda feel like it would be better to just go 4-man Wind or Thunder and use a basic Elemental Eidolon, though. But since I don't know that guy's teams, I can't math it out.

Anyway. A more realistic situation is for a new player who gets carried through a Union event, and gets some excellent off-element debuffers. Not even having access to Sniper Shot or BP yet - much less having a grid - bringing a Lilim with off-element Ryu-Oh and Amaterasu would be a game-changer for new players. How likely is it that a new player would have access to these two (or something close) AND a Lilim? Extremely unlikely.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

-- When the raid eidolon store rolls about, that's instant degradation to orb fodder since everyone can buy Kaisers. If only they buffed these girls...

Also for the record, the Kaisers are really expensive. I've been farming for... 9 months for them? Or is it more like 6? Hmm... either way, a long time. But I'm only expecting to be able to buy 2 or at most 3 of them. So it will take me another 6-9 months to get all of them.

They are NOT cheap, so saying that "everyone will have Kaisers" is probably not going to be true. Everyone will have a couple of Kaisers, but it'll take time before everyone will have lots of (0-star) Kaisers.
Or I could be wrong and everyone will have all the Kaisers, since we'll be able to sell the R Eidolons from Gem Gacha for points instead of 100 Gems.

Originally Posted by Slashley

For the record, there are extremely rare cases where Lilims are the best Mains to use. For example, there was that one DMM player who used a Lilim to hit #3 on Individual rankings, thanks to having to use Thor and Arianrhod for Paralyzes (both off-element). I found that odd, so after mathing it out, despite there being 100 free Assault from Union buffs, it was actually more damage to use Lilim over a basic Elemental attack Eidolon. By a whopping couple of percent, but those couple of percent can mean the difference between rank#3 and rank#6 for example.

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Originally Posted by Slashley

For the record, there are extremely rare cases where Lilims are the best Mains to use. For example, there was that one DMM player who used a Lilim to hit #3 on Individual rankings, thanks to having to use Thor and Arianrhod for Paralyzes (both off-element). I found that odd, so after mathing it out, despite there being 100 free Assault from Union buffs, it was actually more damage to use Lilim over a basic Elemental attack Eidolon. By a whopping couple of percent, but those couple of percent can mean the difference between rank#3 and rank#6 for example.

... I kinda feel like it would be better to just go 4-man Wind or Thunder and use a basic Elemental Eidolon, though. But since I don't know that guy's teams, I can't math it out.

Anyway. A more realistic situation is for a new player who gets carried through a Union event, and gets some excellent off-element debuffers. Not even having access to Sniper Shot or BP yet - much less having a grid - bringing a Lilim with off-element Ryu-Oh and Amaterasu would be a game-changer for new players. How likely is it that a new player would have access to these two (or something close) AND a Lilim? Extremely unlikely.Also for the record, the Kaisers are really expensive. I've been farming for... 9 months for them? Or is it more like 6? Hmm... either way, a long time. But I'm only expecting to be able to buy 2 or at most 3 of them. So it will take me another 6-9 months to get all of them.

They are NOT cheap, so saying that "everyone will have Kaisers" is probably not going to be true. Everyone will have a couple of Kaisers, but it'll take time before everyone will have lots of (0-star) Kaisers.
Or I could be wrong and everyone will have all the Kaisers, since we'll be able to sell the R Eidolons from Gem Gacha for points instead of 100 Gems.

... Damn. The para train with the Lilims are just straight up creativity there. For the average player? There's that case of having 2 off element girls I suppose (well, you did seal it off at the end with the unlikeliness statement), but I was thinking along the lines of when you start focusing on elements. By then I would expect them to trade in those Lilims for a raid eidolon with the appropriate passives.

The Kaiser thing will indeed take time. Just gonna plug some random numbers in for the sake of convenience. I estimate (without evidence) that we get roughly 30 R eidolons per day with max pulls on gemcha. 60 points per day, while the Kaisers take 10k. Each event eidolon also gives 750 though, and we can sell depending on how much use we actually find for them. Cash in our stockpiled SR disasters (none for the new player, probably, and let's say we have 40 MLB by the time it comes out... 600). That sums up to about... 11 weeks per Kaiser?

... Well ok 2 months and then some is quite the drag.

I'll probably sell a couple of useless gacha eidolons...

Sooooo, is it weird that I collect a max level MLB of each Lilim to never ever use but just find it oddly satisfying to line up all Lilims from every element?