Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim01 View Post
How hard is ultimate compare to expert tier? The difficulty spike alot for each tier...How much hp/atk needed before i try ultimate tier?

Btw, ragnarok tier dun need ap, does it mean we can spam it?
Advent Ultimates are usually doable ~30k ATK on the main screen. Obviously character ATK, elemental ATK, and debuff access will play a large role too. Ultimates aren't THAT much harder than Expert because you have more time to build Burst gauge for the final encounter.