Thread: The Princess, The Bandits, and The Capital of Evil Spirits Guide

if you have plenty DC to get saki, then you're a long time veteran player, should already have several melee-range units such as azami, charlotte, rika etc. so saki is not necessary.

if you're a new player, then of course you shouldn't bother with saki. if you do need range fire on melee slot, the gold/plat sailor can get most job done, enough to guide you to the future black ninja event.

>claims to not need Saki on his second account
>has Nanaly on second account

Found your fucking problem there.

Spica does not replace Saki either. If you need that ranged spot for a healer/mage/whatever else, Spica obviously isn't going to help. Yes, Spica is better in most situations, but that wasn't the point of this argument. Once again, if you have other major priorities, no one is saying Saki should be picked above them. We're arguing against your idea that Saki shouldn't be picked up at all unless you're drowning in DCs. If, say, my only options for AW were extremely low-priority units like Cuterie, Mehlis, or Stray, I would pick Saki over them.

Originally Posted by Malcolm

if you have plenty DC to get saki, then you're a long time veteran player, should already have several melee-range units such as azami, charlotte, rika etc. so saki is not necessary.

if you're a new player, then of course you shouldn't bother with saki. if you do need range fire on melee slot, the gold/plat sailor can get most job done, enough to guide you to the future black ninja event.

Uh what. Sailors don't replace ninjas either. They don't have the same DPS and they have a cooldown timer, and are essentially worthless pre-AW anyway. At least use Rika instead or something.

side note and not sure if this wwas already askecd but what are imelias and amelias SAW, nvm manged to find them by the looks of it iemlia is 2.3 attack n defense for 70% health loss after and amelias is 1.5 damage to 3 targets ignoring defense right?

and the nanaly argument would have been worth a damn if i would have used saki to replicate my god damn succes from my second account , on my first 1 , by using saki to subsitute for weaker ranged prowess. That's not the case

Let me get this stuff straight for all people that got confused by this discussion:

Saki is great unit but should not be prioritized over Spica or any other base units. If you are at the point you desperately need ranged unit in meele slot go for her since you are unlikely to get anything better. If you fear that'll get you behind with awakenings spend those 10-15 SC's on DC day refills. Better than getting 3 silver bandits anyway. Consider awakening Saki pretty soon because it gives her great boost. Consider skillupping her as well because her skill AW is pretty brutal and you will want to be done with if ASAP.

Ignore lolix opinion because he's simply wrong. And no, I'm not going to discuss it with you so don't bother replying :P

Charles out.

you literally said what i said. (at least do read the conversation before butting in trying to look cool) . I said the same : saki is a good unit statwise , but she should not be a priority. I repeated that shit for 3 pages now. Then i'm wrong ok charles


Edit : also if you're f2p , and haven't even maxed your baracks yet , spending 15 dcs is a pretty big hit and u would wnat an awakened spica for them anyway for the highest level of effivciency , by being able to do the X-G maps

No, you said she was useless, then tried to change the definition of "useless" to mean "you should not get her because I had no use for her, even if other people did". If you just left it at saying Saki was low-priority, we wouldn't be having this conversation, because once again, no one was arguing against that.

for the love of god , you people are serious ? I said she was useless , which was obviously poor wording , but if you go and look back at that reply , you would see that , right then i actually said that she has her ussese but her cost is too high and there are other priority units then her....in the same damn reply. It's obvious i just had a poor choice of words



I kept repeating that , and i said a number of times that it was indeed a poor choice of words and i didn't meant she's useless in the traditional sense of the word. That can happen when people are not native speakers.



Meanwhile , you guys entirely ignore that part and get stuck over a word. Are you really that petty ?



EDIT : looking back at the god damn reply i didn't even fucking said that she was useless myself. ramazan said "and people said that saki is useless , not worthy , etc"
To which i replied that they are right aka saki is not worth the cost of being a priority unit. Therefore i didn't even said what u people are acusing me of saying for god's sake

Originally Posted by Eab1990

Spica does not replace Saki either. If you need that ranged spot for a healer/mage/whatever else, Spica obviously isn't going to help. Yes, Spica is better in most situations, but that wasn't the point of this argument. Once again, if you have other major priorities, no one is saying Saki should be picked above them. We're arguing against your idea that Saki shouldn't be picked up at all unless you're drowning in DCs. If, say, my only options for AW were extremely low-priority units like Cuterie, Mehlis, or Stray, I would pick Saki over them.



Uh what. Sailors don't replace ninjas either. They don't have the same DPS and they have a cooldown timer, and are essentially worthless pre-AW anyway. At least use Rika instead or something.

clearly you don't read. or have a completely different opinion against this yet can't refute this. so be it.

unlike us , which we didn't...and somehow still managed to survive without saki

OF COURSE WE DID. all we had to do was just 2* skip that damn map if we couldn't anyway, or get a weaker solano back then. I mean, we don't DIE because we don't have a ranged melee. hell, you don't die even if you started playing from day 1 and you couldn't 3* this G-tier map. actually, can anyone even die in this game? I mean, life = 0 and yet life carries on, grind harder.

Stop telling newbies to get her. She's not worth the investment

Read the part I quoted from Eab's post.

i'd rather improve my core team sora , while ignoring saki. That should be even more valid for newbie players

that's your choice and that's because you have actual ranged melees to work around, as well as some OP premium units that not everyone has to help them clear maps which would otherwise become more manageable with a ranged melee. GGWP whenever we start getting maps with little ranged spots and then you realize ranged melees get more important (the same way priest warriors get important), and then you don't have to care because you have your pitiful ninja azami which somehow still works while newbies who listened to you suffer because they have no permanent ranged melees to work around maps.

great advice.

actually i have no ninja. Have just 1 coppy of azami on both accounts lol. Did dailies during her event. And you're still missing the point. My first acount doesn't have op ranged dps. Actually my best units are probably spica , bashira , tethis , celia and camila. That's all i have that are somewhat good. And tethis i even aquired her a month ago. I've did managed to get a perfect solano even tho i didn't 3stared the evnet (the last map required a multiple blacks and karma to do ffs) , and i've literally 3 starred every event sincer hers with the exception of a G map that had 3 gold werewolfs , and can't remember what god damn event that was... And that wasn't becasue of saki. It was because i simply could not block it with any duelist , and even the guide videos used karma for them.



Other then that , i've managed to 3 star everything , without using saki , before and after getting horace or charllote (which is sitll not cc-ed for that matter). Horace was actually cc-ed a long time after her event as well since i didn't really needed a ranged melee that much in the first place on that account. Funny because i did cc-ed both charlotte and horace on the nanaly account , mosttly because i lacked good duelists , and i used them as pseudo princesses more then ranged melee.



And that's the great story of saki , that stays unused while being maxed and black. I guess she had her usage tho : managed to clear my black fairies from inventory since i was running out of space.


EDIT 2 for clarity : i'm not saying that saki doesn't have her usese , but the instances you would really really require a ninja are really not that many as you guys make it out to be. She is in no way a priority to aquire. Other then that , i am done. Don't see the point of this stupid argument when literally all parts involved here agree that she's not a priority. Whatever she's worth the cost of dc's is debatable because aquiring saki requires a couple of IFs before : first you have to wonder , have you gotten spica ? Have you awakened her yet ? If not >> she takes priority over saki. Second , is your core team strong enough to deal with new content , or there are any instances where you can't advance your story/daily/challenge ? Then your core team takes priority. You have the amount of dcs for her without gimping or stalling the awakening of priority units ? Are the instances were you need a ranged on melee slot that often that you have to invest all your dcs in her ?


That's the point with saki. SHe's conditioned by a lot of crap , that paying players or the ones that played before the big break don't understand because they had a crapload of dcs coming into awakening and most likely had a saki before we even got AW. It's not that easy for free players and especially newbies to get them.

That being said , i won't deny that saki has very good stats once deployed , and has some usses. I guess each person have to weight the pros and the cons for their own accounts. And that's how i feel we should end this , because we're going to pointlessly argue about semantics of a word otherwise