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    @unregistered , u should dig trough archives since long before u were even playing. Breaks/no breaks has been a long argued debate between a lot of people.


    Personally i dont mind the pace we have right now , because i also tend to be a bit OCD , and try to raise a lot of girls. Last months , i kinda didnt do that for the lack of time or simply because we got trash units.
    That being said , considering it has been some time , as a player with 2 accounts on nutaku , both high level , i can tell u that at times i do get bored by the constant breaks.


    Im still bummed out about the xp thingy tho. I guess its only logical that only premium stuff gets 3x xp. Otherwise giving that buff during a farm even would have been a bit broken


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    EAB has valid points. You're not expected to excel at events, in particular star rushes, if you started less than two months ago (barring whaling to grind), and many players have been around for years and are primarily interested in new stuff. I personally missed Belinda's event so I'm happy to get its revival, but I understand full well the boredom rampant amongst the vets.

    Being against breaks =/= being against breaks between literally every event. The former could be considered inconsiderate to newer players (and it gives time to grind up recently acquired units that you might want to try out) but the latter is a perfectly justified standpoint. Nobody's saying "let's rush events to try to catch up to DMM" because that's plain unreasonable. We just want a steady flow of new events (getting revivals alongside them would be great though) to give us stuff to do besides the content we've re-run 10,000x already.

    You coming in to a lot of breaks might be welcome to you because you want time to level up units, but it is NOT the same as "catering to the vets" The game is supposed to have regular events (should not be more than 1 break week per month, really) and it rewards time spent on it, therefore new players should be expected to struggle if they're not willing to whale on SC stamina refills. That's not catering to vets, it's just the way MOST games work (honestly, not many games will let you jump into events a week after you start playing and expect to compete at the same level as players who've been around for years). Literally every game developer out there WANTS you to have to devote time to their game because you're more likely to spend money on it, so saying that a game that doesn't let new players full-clear event missions is "catering to vets" makes you come across as a newbie who feels ENTITLED to have access to everything from day 1.


    Basically, we're ok with something like 1 break week (preferably Farm Rate UP or Domination or Revival and not "true" break) per month but the other 3 weeks? New event please.

  3. #93
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    @sora I think you are exaggerating a bit. If we look at this objectively not having a new event unit isn't a step backwards, it is standing still. The revival event is a step forward for newer players and as such the future of the game as a whole. While for you no new event may be disappointing, but realistically it is in no way a step backwards.

    I am a relatively new player. My first event was Memento and I was lucky enough to be able to get a slightly improved version of her. I see a lot of people on the forums complaining about break weeks. The months of break at a time is completely understandable to be upset about, but I have an honest question for those who are against breaks altogether. How do you see the future of the game if the only players that are accommodated are the older players. I have seen a lot of games suffer because the games only catered to veteran players. I have quit games because of that. If things went on pace with the DMM version (not catching up, but the same pace) new players would feel the need to have to spend money to be even slightly competitive. I think there is a middle ground that would work better overall for everyone.
    just to add on to what others have already mentioned, constant events does not mean catering to vets, but means progress for aigis as a whole such they have a consistent pace and we can be assured that they can reach the point where DMM is currently at. Right now, because of the vast amount of events on DMM side, they were able to implement daily revivals, which means 30+ new units to farm every month, on top of having current events. Starting anew on DMM is naturally tough due to being behind veterans, but they also happen to have plenty of SC and other freebie giveaways. Just recently (last week actually) we had an iOS celebration where they gave out 7 gold exp fairies in total (special fairies that give 18k exp to a gold unit, which means you can instantly level golds from 1 to cc60 using 3 of them) which helps newbies to rush up due to the increasing difficulty of current event maps to cater to veterans (I played for 9 months on DMM and still can't 3* the last map of the most recent star rush), as well as the fact that newbies get 21 SC in total from login bonuses when starting the game.

    tl;dr breaks are NOT catering to beginners; freebies and events (to farm silvers and event units to strengthen team) are.

    and I still think not having a new event unit is a step backwards, because you don't sacrifice new events. I'd rather be closer to the op event units than be glad about having revivals that kind of diverge from our original path. (or rather, just give me lieselotte and katie copies already. I know there are some people who screwed up their katie on nutaku or refuse to use her...)

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    I think it will not be a problem - who is managing/developing the game, as long as this will be applied "Our objective with English Aigis is to make the game in every way equal to the Japanese original ".
    And if nutaku will care that it will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soranokira View Post
    just to add on to what others have already mentioned, constant events does not mean catering to vets, but means progress for aigis as a whole such they have a consistent pace and we can be assured that they can reach the point where DMM is currently at. Right now, because of the vast amount of events on DMM side, they were able to implement daily revivals, which means 30+ new units to farm every month, on top of having current events. Starting anew on DMM is naturally tough due to being behind veterans, but they also happen to have plenty of SC and other freebie giveaways. Just recently (last week actually) we had an iOS celebration where they gave out 7 gold exp fairies in total (special fairies that give 18k exp to a gold unit, which means you can instantly level golds from 1 to cc60 using 3 of them) which helps newbies to rush up due to the increasing difficulty of current event maps to cater to veterans (I played for 9 months on DMM and still can't 3* the last map of the most recent star rush), as well as the fact that newbies get 21 SC in total from login bonuses when starting the game.

    tl;dr breaks are NOT catering to beginners; freebies and events (to farm silvers and event units to strengthen team) are.

    and I still think not having a new event unit is a step backwards, because you don't sacrifice new events. I'd rather be closer to the op event units than be glad about having revivals that kind of diverge from our original path. (or rather, just give me lieselotte and katie copies already. I know there are some people who screwed up their katie on nutaku or refuse to use her...)
    Catching up to DMM will never happen. If thats a Problem for someone, he shouldnt be playing here in the first place.
    Nothing wrong with the wish for constant content delivering. It doesnt have to be fired out of machine guns though.

  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero010 View Post
    Catching up to DMM will never happen. If thats a Problem for someone, he shouldnt be playing here in the first place.
    Nothing wrong with the wish for constant content delivering. It doesnt have to be fired out of machine guns though.
    Catching up to where DMM currently is at =/= catching up to DMM

    Please read properly.
    We will never catch up to DMM.
    But we can at least match their pace of weekly events or in else
    1 year in dmm = 2 years in nutaku

    2020 before daily revival comes to nutaku

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero010 View Post
    Catching up to DMM will never happen. If thats a Problem for someone, he shouldnt be playing here in the first place.
    Nothing wrong with the wish for constant content delivering. It doesnt have to be fired out of machine guns though.
    If one event a week is "machine gun" pace for you, then you should learn to manage your time better instead of dragging the entire playerbase down to your level.

  8. #98
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    If one event a week is "machine gun" pace for you, then you should learn to manage your time better instead of dragging the entire playerbase down to your level.
    I think that was uncalled for. It came across to me as Nero simply misread what Sora posted, as the unregistered pointed out. No need for hostility. I think we ALL want new events delivered regularly, and revivals on the side would be nice but let's keep moving FORWARD.

    Like I said earlier, there's no reason we should have more than one break week per month (preferably a break that at least has farm rate up, domination and/or revival going on) and that would be a healthy flow of new stuff while giving newer players a chance to grind up their units one week a month.

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    thats just his typical elitist attitude Ivan. Ignore it.


    That being said , i kinda agree. I week of breaks per month sounds resonable....and its actually similar to what i proposed a long time ago as well.



    Problem is , that the other veterans tend to disagree , and while i DO understand their issues (as i said , i have 2 nutaku accounts. I know far better then most how boring grinding can be) , i also do believe that small breaks can be good for both newbies (as to not be overwhelmed by content - contrary to popular opinion , there is quite some stuff to do in aigis right after making a new account) , and even for veterans that might dislike having to fix their schedule AT ALL TIMES to fit a game. Thats even worse if u dont have internet at work..





    Other then that , ill refuse getting into this argument again , and you are probably better of leaving it like that Ivan. They will drag you down and beat you with experience...at least in regards to this topic
    Last edited by lolix; 10-04-2016 at 09:59 AM.

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    Excuse me for immediately defaulting to "hostile" whenever people suggest breaks instead of just properly allotting their time.

    I mean, when people in FKG of all things (whose events are largely star trial/collection types to begin with) started demanding breaks, that tells me people like to ruin the game's pacing for others just so they can enjoy the game at their own pace.

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