Do they? I might have missed that post, I always thought its mostly flying units being unarmored and archers dealing the highest dmg when dealing with unarmored units.Originally Posted by Sincronic
Bashira's AW is only a change in shooting priority targeting shooters first while victoria's is magic priority, targeting magic dealers first.
Thats why they generally make poor AW targets for your first units.
Making spica which already has the highest consistent dmg, even better with her +7% dmg to archers.
Eventually the others should be awakened as well mostly because of their SAW potential. Not sure when that will be implemented though, its a big step.
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Archers get a 20% damage increase to flying units
Snipers get 30%
Artemisia get 40%
Due to Victoria and Bashira merely having target priority changes for AW bonuses, they are way down on the priority list compared to Spica (7% Attack Up ALL archers just by being in squad), Nanaly (+30 range) and Rita (20% chance to fire 2 shots at once, helps her low (for a platinum) damage some).
Momiji's Block 3 is a double-edged sword. She has decent bulk and her skill can boost her stats to godly levels briefly, plus she attacks all 3 targets at once. On the other hand, she doesn't have the HP/Defense to tank hard hitters/multiple moderate hitters, and therefore is more of an anti-rush unit than a true blocker. Elva only blocks 2 even after AW but that gives her a lot more survivability (her stats are lower than Momiji's but Momiji NEEDS that extra bulk due to her extra block) and she gets that passive to chip in some more defense if she gets in trouble. She also attacks MUCH faster than Momiji (Samurai are among the slower attackers, Elva's among the faster ones) and with skill is on par with Saki in attack speed. Which is better depends on enemy composition and timing.
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generally , getting a tank is better then anything , and if missing bernice , id suggest leanne , even over garret.
Leanne , assuming max skill level has enough defense to be on par with skill ussage marribel. (at max cc , before awakening)
Consider this - marribel , which is a plat heavy , with holy awakening. Holy awakening makes marribels stats black tier.
That means , that a max skill leanne CAN be used as a tank of sorts for most situations, considering she has stats that far ouclass her rarity. Still , id hope for a gold rush if i were you and try to aquire a bernice , since leanne cant be awakened for one , and garret is a pretty shitty tank in general
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I also thought that was true as well, until recently where I got to try out maribel myself in dmm's daily revival. Originally Posted by lolix
She is HIGHLY situational, is the best way to put it.
Her normal stats are even worse than leeanne's, a silver unit.
And the waiting time for her ability has forced me to dismiss her early more than once.
That shit is scary.
Well, i guess it wont matter to most newbies till her revival comes and they can test it themselves.
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Ofc she is situational. All holy awakening units are. They have crapier stats in general to compensate for their huge increase in stats during skill usage.
As i said , marribel during skill has black tier stats. The problem is that you have to time her deployment just right
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And some maps might not let you, between tight UP and wave timing/composition. Which is why if you have Bernice, Gellius or Deine, you might as well forget Maribel altogether (ok that's a bit of an exaggeration but those 3 are so easy to fit into tanking situations that it's like "why bother with a unit that requires special timing when you have X unit that does the same thing without such a requirement, even if they're weaker in the OPTIMAL situation?") Originally Posted by lolix
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You do realize that marribels skill cd/timing is irelevant i the context of what i was saying ... Originally Posted by IvanLedah21
I was talking about her sheer stats during skill usage , and was saying how LEANNE has literally the same defense....while also having generally better stats then marrible without skill usage.
Point i was trying to make was that leanne is a pretty good tank to have...probably better then garret (well , better then cc garret , not AW garret - for the simple fact that he gains like 1k hp over her after awakening) , considering he lacks bernice or gelius or deine
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It just felt weird to me when people used to praise maribel as one of the top plats while the other one with the same ability Emilia gets shit on as a bad unit. Originally Posted by lolix
Guess it shows the just how core the role of HA (and now MA) played at the start of aigis, at least compared to duelists.
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Yeah, archers get bonus damage against fliers, as mentioned. Which I've always thought was funny from a game design perspective, how archers in games often get bonuses against flying units, but that's for another time... Originally Posted by buttlover
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